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02.03.2010, 02:20 AM

[QUOTE=PBO;347276]All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...



-The Bush Administration, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history... Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.

How did they fail at everything they did? They got the PATRIOT ACT in, they got the PATRIOT ACT 2 in, not to mention all the other laws and shit that are against your Constitution and take away your rights...they have started war against three countries, destroyed their economies, peppered them with radio active depleted Uranium that will contaminate the whole area for the next 4.5 BILLION years....

-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

You keep attacking about shit no one here can answer, and frankly doesn't matter at this point... and who said anything about gag orders, I never?! Who says fire fighters know anything about buildings collapsing? How would you know this, why would you think that? Perhaps on a smaller scale such of HOUSES, but skyscrapers bro?

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

Never seen this article, can't find it, and I don't see how this has any relevancy to any evidence at all, quit nit-picking at idiot "theorists" claims, I am not one of those, I am just presenting the evidence, not speculation, and not theories.

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Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

Don't you think they be using high paid FBI/CIA/military agents/leaders who work with the government on a daily basis, and have dirt on each other? Just think about that.

-The courts for imposing a gag order [SEE above]

mass media controls thought patterns/ideas/points of view in this country/society

-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

Why would they if they believe the media that it was a terrorist attack... these questions of yours are nothing more than the general consensus of the population, a kind of self fulfilling mentality of the population, fed by fear of being an outcast if you do not fit in.

-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?

Are these ppl family, no, enough said.

-All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

No answer bro.

-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

There are few family members who have went public and asked the 9/11 case be reopened (was it ever even open to begin with?), then the unaccounted for families who are maybe simply too fearful of what might happen if they ask questions.

-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

Good answer here man, really...like why did they show WTC 7 once on the day of 9/11 and never show it on TV again?

-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

Those pictures neither supports nor discredit either side of the argument. NIST report is full of half truths and speculation.

-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...e/1227842.html

Yes, I have read the whole article, and it is simply rubbish, they only attempt two legit claims for the 'conspiracy' side, the rest are nit-picking at claims made by idiots on the web with two brain cells that simply don't know what they are talking about and just like to rant at the government, and can't keep their mouths shut, they are the reason many people shy away for the conspiracy evidence, because they see idiots making outrageous claims, so they think that it ALL must be wrong and unsubstantiated.

-The pod claim, I do not support this silly theory, and is one that PM debunks, well pretty easy when it's a full of shit claim to begin with.
-The stand down order, well this one is just half truth on PM's part, they admitt there was an exercise going on, and that's it, they fail to mention that the exercise was for PLANES HITTING BUILDINGS, and that Dick Cheney had full control of the north east air defense, and the whole operation was told to stand down shooting down the planes. So deliberately confused.
-Flight 175 windows... this was ONE guy, a Fox news reporter Marc Birnbach said he saw no windows on the side of the plane, I for one do not support this claim, easy target for PM again...
-'Widespread Damage' claim... this is just plain rubbish on PM's part, there were bombs going off under the towers, we know this, many firefighters said this, many citizens said this, which can be backed up by videos all over the internet, am I hearing shit, or did I hear a definite 'sharp' bomb blast, concurrent with demolition charges, sharp and powerful blasts.
-Melted steel, this is another 'idiot' theorist claim which I do not support, I for one will agree that the steel does not need melting to suddenly 'give way', but there were rivers of molten metal pouring out of the towers shortly after impact, and it would not be aluminum, as it does not glow red at point of melting, gives off no infrared spectrum at all. As well as all the massive pools of molten steel nearly a month later in ground zero rubble.
-'Puffs of dust'... this is one that cannot be used either way, because it is circumstantial to both theories, no matter how unlikely the pancake collapse is.
-Seismic activity... the second graph is clearly not the same as the first and is also very dissimilar to the official and original graph, and I have never seen this graph until now, which leads me to believe it is possible that it is a fake.
-WTC 7, ooooohhh, so they finally come up with a speculative theory on how it came down now! They sound VERY sure on what happened as well, seeing as the original 9/11 commission report completely disregarded #7, as well as TV, and was never shown again. NIST is government owned, why would they have them make a report that was to the contrary to the official story!?
-Pentagon debunking is a complete joke on PM's part, I am not even going to bother with this one.
-The rest of the debunking is all idiot claims again, easy pickings for PM... they don't even TOUCH the real evidence on 9/11... what kind of debunking is that? That is a piece of science fraud is what that is.


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