[lincpimp]

I hate loud tiny motors. I even pulled the muggy exhaust off the 12r cause it rattled my helmet. Nothing against people who do like loud stuff though, just as long as they are out of earshot! I guess I am just used to what a tuned v8 sounds like, and anything else just seems rough and weak to me...

I understand the tuned pipe will make a difference, but it will never be 4wd, and it will always be heavy and need a large area to play in. My bashing spots are 1/8 friendly, but not 1/5. Plus the gas was too slow for me, I guess I am just used to brushless acceleration.

To each his own, all the baja owners need to get out and enjoy those big rcs!