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Originally Posted by AMorgan
I didn't end up sending the first one back as I got my motor mount the day I was going to ship it back and it had a cover for that hole, so I wasn't sweating that, but then I went to screw stuff down and the holes weren't deeply countersunk enough to make the screws flush with the bottom of the chassis (Screws sad .5mm-1mm below chassis). I contacted John about tips on cleaning up the countersinks since I would be going into carbon and never heard back, but when it came down to it, there weren't any reliefs in the chassis itself for things like the steering posts, so if I tighten those down, I likely would never be able to remove the screws easily like I can with the stock chassis, which has reliefs to limit the rotation. The pictures above have nice neat reliefs for what appears to be the steering posts and additional ones under the diffs, etc. Mine also was narrower in the front where the diff mounted, which seemed like it could end up being a chassis break point and the diff holes were crudely cut. Not as professional as I was hoping I guess. I'm thinking about taking it up with Matrix to see if they can make me something or bugging the company that makes 3mm chassis to see if they can make me something up. Seems like since they're CNC aluminum, it can be a lot more exact.
I just can't help but look at the chassis in this thread and notice how much more professional and thought out they appear to be compared to what came to me.
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If you've seen the Matrix concepts chassis, you must know that you cannot compare the matrix chassis to the MoosRacing chassis, insofar as looks, finish, and small and even big details such that you have mentioned. The limitations you are working within is that Matrix Concepts is not at the moment making carbon fiber chassis for most model RC's yet. And though Robert of Matrix Concepts is slowly expaning his line of chassis and parts, Robert is not making carbon fiber chassis and parts for all model rc's yet. Also keep in mind that Robert of Matrix Concepts spends months and even years testing and perfecting anything he makes. John of MoosRacing has a completely different approach. John will make just about any 1/8th scale chassis and part for anyone, very quick. Litterally make a mold and have the chassis ready in two weeks, even if that's the first chassis of that model RC. The pictures you saw on this thread are of my MoosRacing chassis, and John had no idea I was going to take pictures and or start this thread, that would be unfair to everyone. I didn't want John to know I was going to show millions and or billions of people my chassis. In johns eyes, I was just another customer, and therfore your chassis and my chassis are very likely have the same blemishes and what could be considered by many or some, to be problems. I can tell you this, before I ever knew Matrix Concepts was going to make a carbon fiber chassis for the Hyper 9e, I had asked John if he would make me a carbon fiber chassis, for my Hyper 9e, he said to give him two weeks and it should be done. I considered that a dream come true. Especially after I had just spent three months trying to find someone that would make me a carbon fiber chassis for my Hyper 9e. I can tell you right now, knowone was interested(except Robert of Matrix Concepts, he was interested), and people all over the world said it couldn't be done, and one of the reasons people said it couldn't be done is because they were convinced the final product would have to cost several hundred dollars and that it would also be way to much work to make these carbon fiber chassis. John has been making chassis for over four years now, the same quality you have in your hands is what 20% of Europe RC racers are racing with. My advice to you is put your RC together, find a way to make it work, and enjoy it. If you don't want to go that route you don't have to. You can toss that chassis aside and call it a day. I think it would be worth trying to make your chassis work for you. And as for what John cuts out and doesn't cut out, the only cut out my chassis has on the top side, is for the front and rear gearbox/bulkhead gaskets. But if your model requires that you need more than that, and John has not done this to your chassis, and has not respond to you, I would either try and fix it myself, or like you said, send it to a company that does custom work and can help you, or get another chassis from a different company. It's very clear that you are not totally happy with your chassis. I'm extreemly grateful John makes these chassis and is always improving his designs and materials and process.
As much as I like to see a happy carbon fiber chassis owner, Johns chassis are not for everyone. If you really want a chassis that is absolutely flowless in every single detail, Matrix Concepts is the only place I can think of working at that level. Johns chassis will perform well and lighten up your buggy, but right now, because of how quick John makes the molds and sends these chassis out, the chassis will have what could be considered to be blemishes. If you can see past those and find a way to get your RC back together, maybe you can grow to enjoy your chassis. Most people see past the blemishes, and are overwhelmed by gratitude of the performance increase. And others just love carbon fiber, regardless of specifications.
I really need to see pictures of all your concerns, this way I can contact John and discuss this with him. Will you please post as many pictures as you can of every concern you have, Please.
PS. Please post full shot pictures of the chassis, and also some close up pictures of the chassis details that bother you most, and least. I would like to see everything you are talking about. And I realize that you realize these blemishes may not be as big a deal as you sometimes feel they are, but you are expressing your desire to be listened to, and im listening and asking you to please post pictures in order that I and everyone on this thread, may better relate to you. Thank you in advance AMorgan, please get these pictures up :)
Note. Please put some screws into the bottom of your chassis so that I may see how much each screw is not flush with the bottom of your chassis. I know that John recumends to everyone running his chassis, to run a chassis protective sheet on the bottom as well. What I don't understand, is I've not heard one owner of these chassis say the screws were not flush on the bottom of the chassis, I would very much like to see this, picture please :)
Another Note: Please also post a picture of your original chassis relief where the steering post go into, I want to understand what you are talking about. And the best way for me to understand is by seeing pictures. Plus, I can copy these pictures and send them to John directly. I need these pictures, I can't emphasize this enough to you.