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Jahay · 02.13.2011, 09:55 AM

Woah... thanks for the informative reply!!! Really helped make my decision as to which direction i am going to go with... it also helped me realise a few other things...
Linc i am quite thankful you are doing the testing, as i have been looking for a way of incorporating new hubs onto the savage. I could have done this myself... but the time waiting for parts to arrive from the states, and the prices are extremely expensive once it gets to the UK!

Firstly i will say... as tempting as the CEN Conversion is, and how it is obviously that bit easier to install (no custom braces), most likely stronger at the hub (larger bearings) and from what i have seen on ebay, cheaper parts! and the CEN Shafts are obviously stronger! i am most likely going to go with the LST2 conversion for my project.

I am primarily looking for the following
-a wider stance

-strong hub to handle heavier wheels (both cen and lst are golden here)

-the ability to utilise my stock HPI savage sway bars (most prob with a few modifications this would be possible with the CEN arms, but should be much easier with the savage arms and LST Hubs.

-I like the idea that if i brake an arm, i can remove the pin without removing any plastic bumpers. (yes i am still a little skeptical as to whether how strong the hinge pin would be only being braced by the thicker custom braces without the bulk but i am not going to be doing any crazy jumps with this truck as i will have another basher for that.

- No need for a rear turnbuckle

- Just as important as everything else is a little bling... sad... i know... but i can use the new era goodies to add a little shine.. plus all my alloy is being anodised in the coming weeks... (CEN doesnt have enough bling for me haha...im prob going to do cen mods on my basher savage)

- ease of replacing parts (a mate of mine has an lst2 with plenty of spares like i do for the savage. So i can get them off him any time. (no cen suppliers in the UK but there are a few lst2)

- looks like the LST2 CVD will work with the vorza cup... but only time will tell.

- also .... i was considering trying some flm arms... i was hoping the stiff alloy arms would give the savage more of a predictable controllability... this also means, in big tumbles and in the event that the arm ripped off... The bulk would not be damaged, and i doubt the thick alloy braces would be, but only the hinge pin would bend and possibly pull out? This means it would be a cheaper fix than replacing a whole bulk head.

Also many who have done extended muggy conversions using the lst2 as a platform, have proven that the LST2 axles/hubs/shafts can handle the 8-12s power they pump through the parts so that gives me confidence... And if a savage arm breaks here and there, it really is a small price to pay and is an extremely quick fix!

I JUST HOPE THE LST2 HAS BETTER STEERING THROW... By the looks of it, both cen and lst have similar design (one just more robust than the other) so steering throw should be great on both hopefully, or even increasable as long as the shaft doesnt pop out of the diff output.

I think it is now time i start ordering my LST2 parts... Linc Thanks a lot for doing the hard work and working this out. very much appreciated and i know how to tackle this without having to ummmm and arrrrrrrr now.

Thanks again buddy...

I am still following both lst and cen threads as i want to see how good the steering throw will be etc... but it is time to stop faffing around and order some parts so i can start making my own braces... I will try using 4mm alloy only as i have it available.

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Jahay RC-Monster Titanium Offline Posts: 1,007 Join Date: Apr 2010	02.13.2011, 09:55 AM Woah... thanks for the informative reply!!! Really helped make my decision as to which direction i am going to go with... it also helped me realise a few other things... Linc i am quite thankful you are doing the testing, as i have been looking for a way of incorporating new hubs onto the savage. I could have done this myself... but the time waiting for parts to arrive from the states, and the prices are extremely expensive once it gets to the UK! Firstly i will say... as tempting as the CEN Conversion is, and how it is obviously that bit easier to install (no custom braces), most likely stronger at the hub (larger bearings) and from what i have seen on ebay, cheaper parts! and the CEN Shafts are obviously stronger! i am most likely going to go with the LST2 conversion for my project. I am primarily looking for the following -a wider stance -strong hub to handle heavier wheels (both cen and lst are golden here) -the ability to utilise my stock HPI savage sway bars (most prob with a few modifications this would be possible with the CEN arms, but should be much easier with the savage arms and LST Hubs. -I like the idea that if i brake an arm, i can remove the pin without removing any plastic bumpers. (yes i am still a little skeptical as to whether how strong the hinge pin would be only being braced by the thicker custom braces without the bulk but i am not going to be doing any crazy jumps with this truck as i will have another basher for that. - No need for a rear turnbuckle - Just as important as everything else is a little bling... sad... i know... but i can use the new era goodies to add a little shine.. plus all my alloy is being anodised in the coming weeks... (CEN doesnt have enough bling for me haha...im prob going to do cen mods on my basher savage) - ease of replacing parts (a mate of mine has an lst2 with plenty of spares like i do for the savage. So i can get them off him any time. (no cen suppliers in the UK but there are a few lst2) - looks like the LST2 CVD will work with the vorza cup... but only time will tell. - also .... i was considering trying some flm arms... i was hoping the stiff alloy arms would give the savage more of a predictable controllability... this also means, in big tumbles and in the event that the arm ripped off... The bulk would not be damaged, and i doubt the thick alloy braces would be, but only the hinge pin would bend and possibly pull out? This means it would be a cheaper fix than replacing a whole bulk head. Also many who have done extended muggy conversions using the lst2 as a platform, have proven that the LST2 axles/hubs/shafts can handle the 8-12s power they pump through the parts so that gives me confidence... And if a savage arm breaks here and there, it really is a small price to pay and is an extremely quick fix! I JUST HOPE THE LST2 HAS BETTER STEERING THROW... By the looks of it, both cen and lst have similar design (one just more robust than the other) so steering throw should be great on both hopefully, or even increasable as long as the shaft doesnt pop out of the diff output. I think it is now time i start ordering my LST2 parts... Linc Thanks a lot for doing the hard work and working this out. very much appreciated and i know how to tackle this without having to ummmm and arrrrrrrr now. Thanks again buddy... I am still following both lst and cen threads as i want to see how good the steering throw will be etc... but it is time to stop faffing around and order some parts so i can start making my own braces... I will try using 4mm alloy only as i have it available.