If this is directed at my by no means did I mean any disrespect by what I said. Also, I have read this thread probably 10 times from post to post and is full of great info and I thank you for taking the time to offer your experience. The axles that I was talking about are not the factory axle, but the cvd dog bone style the traxxas offers as the race axles. I just thought I would let people know I found something that might also work.