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Originally Posted by PBO
Not forced. Coerced, compelled, threatened - they are more appropriate
George Junior & his admin said that countries were either with the US or against, this is a strong, aggressive & devisive statement. Along with that current & future trade deals etc all hung in the balance for those countries sitting on the fence. It's far from an invitation
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Yeah, it was tough talk and part of propaganda. However, what did we do to those that didn't come along? That's right, nothing. You make it sound as if we would have nuked someone had they not have joined us. If I recall correctly most countries did little more than give token support with very few exceptions. Of course these same countries in turn wanted more than a token's amount of the benefits received from the invasion as well.
If you analyze the war in total many foreign businesses got some pretty sizable contracts out of the deal. Take Turkey for example who made a amount providing logistic services alone.
Of course others condemned us out of one side of their mouth but also had no problem bargaining for contracts as well and reaping other benefits. Some have even made quite lucrative careers for themselves being US bashing aficionados.
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Originally Posted by PBO
I find your own opinion "As far as the UN is concerned sorry but I don't feel we need their permission or blessing for anything we do" ironic & if I assume you are an average thinking US citizen then doesn't that validate my original point that the US needs to work on it foreign policies? any other country that expressed that sentiment would be labelled as all things bad by the US
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I feel every country can do their own thing without approval from the UN. I don't recognize the UN's power/authority over sovereign nations and neither should anyone. I don't see how it's ironic. Just because talking heads run their mouths about on situation or another doesn't necessarily reflect the populous at large. With Russia a major part along with all the little rogue nations full of hard core dictators I can't see why anyone would recognize that farce which is the UN.
I never said that other nations do and most people here don't believe they need our permission to do anything. However if another country is accepting money from us, then yes we have a right to have a voice in there actions when it can affect us. This is just like any investment. However, in reality I would prefer we not give money so freely to others and especially those that don't have our interests in mind.
On another note what is Australia doing in regards to foreign policy which is so much superior to ours? When I look closely it seems to me Australia has it's own fair share of issues facing it as well. I am just saying everyone loves to point and bash the US as it's quite the sport across the globe but what happens when it's pointed inward? It also seems to me as your suggesting that we should ask others permission before we make moves but others should not have ours? Maybe I am misreading this but it's how I took it.
I think in many ways you are assuming I support everything our government does. However, the point I am trying to make is that I want a whole lot less government involvement in everything period. I want a whole lot smaller government period. I am all for our government being less involved in cleaning up others messes and trying to police their activities. I also don't want foreign governments telling us how to run our borders and enforce our laws as our closest neighbors so like to do. Especially when they have benefited so heavily from our proximity to them.
We will sit on our continent and maintain a large and modern military here and if someone jacks with us or our interests we can take them out them come right back home. Kind of like how Jefferson handled events around Tripoli back in his time.