Well, I just wadded it up on a 8" iron drain that was sticking up about 6" out of the ground. :005: I took it to work today to show my bud with a stock emaxx what a real truck is, and caught this pipe which was hidden in a little grassy patch at around 30mph. It hit squarely on the left suspension, which immediately stopped the truck, broke the lower arm and treaked both tvps. LOL. Oh well. I picked up replacements on ebay, and I am in the process of tearing down again. :005: