no i dont, the rusty and pede are the ultimate newb trucks and TONS of ppl are buying them, and thats what ur not seeing.. 170 bucks to have a very nice car out of the box that is tough is what ppl want.. now a e maxx is 330 bucks plus 2 batts, and depends on if u want to wait for 2 batts to charge on a single charger so moew money if they do a dual

do u see what i mean?

for us it was kinda dumb, but for the most of the ppl buying new cars and trucks that they cant get a 200$$ bl system in there and lipos it was awsome