Steel or kevlar belted tires - RC-Monster Forums

mistercrash · 01:06 PM

So who's going to come out with steel belted or kevlar belted tires for the Monster Trucks, Truggies and Buggies running high powered brushless systems? No more ballooning especially running a CD. Any of you think it would be a good idea? Anyone would buy them at maybe double the price of what's already on the market?
I just ran my BL ERevo and ripped one of my stock Talons to shreds running on 4S. I changed to my old Badlands and one of the front ones came unglued and the foam got ripped.

Slowkrawl · 05.29.2009, 01:32 PM

I would probably check them out, however for double the price I would probably stick to duct-taping most of my tires and have maybe one set of belted.

TexasSP · 05.29.2009, 01:43 PM

I would pick kevlar over steel. Lighter and more pliable for how it needs to be used. But fiberglass would be a good choice as well. I vote yest because anything would be helpful to tone down ballooning. I also think maybe a foam tire pre-mounted on light dish wheels with an applied rubber tread would be interesting as well.

Whatever may come about, there is a lot of room for improvement. Although I will say RC tires have come along way over the last 10 years too.

mistercrash · 05.29.2009, 01:45 PM

I have no idea what the price would be if they ever were produced, I just put ''double the price'' as I thought they would surely be more expensive. Maybe they would be 50% more, I don't know. What I know is that I would definitely try one set.

rabosi · 05.29.2009, 02:34 PM

I don't think it even has to be steel or kevlar. For RC apps polyester or fiberglass thread would probably suffice and cost less.

nitrostarter · 05.29.2009, 02:36 PM

For those wanting highspeed buggy and on road tires, check out Losi Rally premounts! They are good for 100+mph!

BrianG · 05.29.2009, 02:44 PM

I don't know about double the price as tires are kinda expensive as it is considering what they are. Besides, how much extra work is it to lay down some type of fiber material during the bolding process, especially if done by machine? Definitely not worth double the price, maybe 20% higher.

Semi Pro · 05.29.2009, 02:56 PM

just take you tire with tamiya kevlar tape, they make it for taping in your batterys on 1/10 on-road cars, works great

ClodMaxx · 05.29.2009, 03:14 PM

i like the idea - but only if ballooning is half the issue solved. the other half is wear. if they can come out with a compound that gives great grip and long life, and if the 'belting' also can increase the tire life, i'd pay extra. maybe up to 50% extra, depending.

i think r/c tire prices are one of the most ridiculous parts of the cars as it is.

BrianG · 05.29.2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ClodMaxx

...i think r/c tire prices are one of the most ridiculous parts of the cars as it is.

That and lexan bodies! C'mon, $30+ for an unpainted, uncut slab of thin lexan?! $10 would still be overpriced IMO.

nitrostarter · 05.29.2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG

That and lexan bodies! C'mon, $30+ for an unpainted, uncut slab of thin lexan?! $10 would still be overpriced IMO.

Thank you! For a process that takes a whole 10 seconds to vacuum form those bodies into a mold... I would love to see them down to $10 tho...

ClodMaxx · 05.29.2009, 03:42 PM

i'm sure some of the cost involved in bodies are licensing fees - but for 'made up' vehicles that aren't based on a 1:1 vehicle, they should be $5, lol.

nitrostarter · 05.29.2009, 03:58 PM

I know advertising, sponsorships, licenses all go into the cost of these bodies. I mean someone has to pay for those Team drivers. It just sucks that for something that costs less than $5 to make, we have to pay 600% more...

And as far as making tires last longer, formulas come into play as well as traction. Sticky tires normally don't last long like hard compound, slick compounds do. So I'm thinking in order to make these tires last, the compounds would have to shift to a harder mixture or a whole different compound all together.

ClodMaxx · 05.29.2009, 04:59 PM

and call me crazy...but why can't they start making air filled wheel/tire combinations? that way we could adjust pressure based on terrain. that's what i do with my tubeless wheelsets on my mountain bike... run lower pressure on harder surfaces, so there isn't so much 'bounce', and you get a wider surface area.

Slowkrawl · 05.29.2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ClodMaxx

and call me crazy...but why can't they start making air filled wheel/tire combinations? that way we could adjust pressure based on terrain. that's what i do with my tubeless wheelsets on my mountain bike... run lower pressure on harder surfaces, so there isn't so much 'bounce', and you get a wider surface area.

http://www.junfac.com/shop/index.php...c190b744b11123
Try it out.