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12.01.2009, 04:40 PM
Well I have wanted a monster truck since I was a kid sweating the kyosho nitro monster trucks in RC Car Action back in the day. They looked so cool and I knew even then I didn't want to mess with the nitro thing nor did I have that kind of money as a youngster. I have built a few truggies now, the latest is my current xt8. I dunno how much I am going to dig the MT thing but I plan to make a solid go of it.
Last night I bought a Savage BL Flux NIB display model for $440 on ebay. I really have been doing alot of research the last few days. I have alot of ideas but want to try my best to make good choices in my upgrades. I would like to thank the members that post there savages on this site, they have inspired me to give this a run.
I would like to run a extended chassis...which one I dunno yet. I want monster more then speed. Preferably like 40 series tires with some sick wheels. Cool body and a sick motor like a Neu monster which is undecided as well.
I invite all suggestions and I am watching the other savage builds daily. Really looking forward to this new direction in a brushless build. I was also looking at some LST2's on ebay but I though the Flux BL wouldnt hurt to have since I am down to only one other MMM 2200 combo in my XT8.
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12.01.2009, 08:10 PM
Good price, well done.
Well, big wheels is fine and longer chassis too for that proper monster look, I am digging that completely with all my builds. I would say a castle 1518 or 1520 motor on 5 or 6s lipo would provide plenty of grunt to move the bigger wheels and larger chassis with ease, you just have to have a realistic speed in mind to prevent the drivetrain, esc and lipos from failing prematurely; 40mph is like the magic number these days.
Diffs are easily upgraded is needed, and drivetrain too- plenty of options for aftermarket driveshafts and props. I think you'll enjoy rocking the big MT thing alot, its rather different to precise feeling & handling truggies, much more unweildy and a handful to control, which makes it all the more exciting
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12.01.2009, 09:24 PM
Keep in mind those 40 series tires are gonna put alot more load on your drivetrain, ESC and lipo's, especially on 6S. You may experience more differential failures from that extra weight and you wanna drop down your pinion tooth count or the extra load could fry your ESC/Lipo's.
I recommend getting the bulletproof diff upgrades and the castlink so you can modify the ESC to your liking and get used to the speed and power of the Flux.
The 2200kv motor with the Flux is pretty hard to beat without spending alot more money, its a high end brushless motor for its price range so I'd drive the truck with that first before you get any crazy ideas of a high end sensored Novak or Tekin BL motor
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12.01.2009, 10:47 PM
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Keep in mind those 40 series tires are gonna put alot more load on your drivetrain, ESC and lipo's, especially on 6S. You may experience more differential failures from that extra weight and you wanna drop down your pinion tooth count or the extra load could fry your ESC/Lipo's.
I recommend getting the bulletproof diff upgrades and the castlink so you can modify the ESC to your liking and get used to the speed and power of the Flux.
The 2200kv motor with the Flux is pretty hard to beat without spending alot more money, its a high end brushless motor for its price range so I'd drive the truck with that first before you get any crazy ideas of a high end sensored Novak or Tekin BL motor
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Freezebyte is the man to speak to on how to scam free bits from HPI, say the same thing on 25 different forums and push your way into a magazine article with minimal modifications besides some window dressing.
The stock motor is a Neu / Castle, so leave that there, I'd enjoy the truck stock and only upgrade as you need to. Oh and keep the body as a monster truck, why people think a Stadium Truck body looks good on a Savage is beyond me, what's next a 2 inch Sports Exhaust on a Prius?
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12.02.2009, 12:00 AM
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Freezebyte is the man to speak to on how to scam free bits from HPI, say the same thing on 25 different forums and push your way into a magazine article with minimal modifications besides some window dressing.
The stock motor is a Neu / Castle, so leave that there, I'd enjoy the truck stock and only upgrade as you need to. Oh and keep the body as a monster truck, why people think a Stadium Truck body looks good on a Savage is beyond me, what's next a 2 inch Sports Exhaust on a Prius?
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Ahhh, your so cute when you let loose your grudge against me Baja! Can I give you some good quality cheese to go with that whine?
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12.02.2009, 12:08 AM
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Ahhh, your so cute when you let loose your grudge against me Baja! Can I give you some good quality cheese to go with that whine? 
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No matter which way you try to justify it, you're actions make you nothing more than a petty thief in my books.
Try and laugh it off all you like mate, Karma catches up with all of us, at the end of the day, you'll have to answer to someone far higher up than anyone on a chat forum.
Hope you sleep well at night
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12.01.2009, 10:58 PM
Thanks guys. I am pretty excited, I feel like my christmas present is in the mail on the way but nobody knows thats what it is but me.
Im runing the 2200kv combo in the truggy and quite pleased with it. The adjustable with the castle link is really nice. I was thinking of getting a Neu later for the Savage.
The jury is out on the 40 series. I run some badlands with this BL setup and they produce heat by themselves. I can only imagine the stress and drive wear with 40series. I actually have a weird compulsion to have my rigs looking nice when chillin on display so I usually have a nice body and wheel set for each of my rigs....I know a little A.D.D. So knowing my compulsion I will probably have some expensive wheels and tires in 40series just for show and smaller more reasonable shoes for runners.
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12.01.2009, 11:05 PM
Oh snap on the lipo thing....I am digging the hyperion g3 or whatever. I was hoping to know what you guys are running successfully. I REALLY wish they didn't take two lipos but oh well. My happy place with this motor seems to be 5s on a truggy (i know this should be a bit heavier from what I've read) so this poses a problem...but it just dawned on my that I could run 2 5s in parallel even though it be more expensive, and then get some 3s for series running. I will have to search for the box dimensions. Sorry rambling.
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12.02.2009, 01:30 AM
Congrats on the nice score. My sav is my favorite to run. They aren't as fast or precise as my trug, but I still enjoy it the most. Its just a big baddass bruiser of a truck.
My 40 series rock, and the terrapins are great for rough offroad driving (but not much else.)
I love the lst shocks too, tho have not had the probs JT did w/ the FLM towers. I do see where the weakness is tho, so who knows. Depends on luck and driving demands I guess. There are other conv kits, else I was wondering how 8 Flux shocks would do... :) Seems like it would be cool. The Flux shocks look like they work quite well, but the one small lonely shock looks like its just missing something.
As far as the other nonsense goes.. I'm not sure what the history is.. but thumbsup to HPI for taking care of their customers. HPI is freely replacing failed flux and XL diffs as there is a clear defect in the original design, they've redesigned it and now are making the BP diffs std equipment. You do not have to lie or trick them into giving you something. I still had my original failed diffs from my XL when it was nitro, before I did the CEN diff conversion (which its popularity showed weakness of the oem design,) I called them up, talked to a CS rep and explained the whole thing and they voluntarily offered to send me the revised part right off the bat. All they wanted was a pic of the parts to verify purchase and they shipped me the parts. Awesome. Same as an auto dealer repairing a car under recall IMO. Actually, quite a bit better. I'll likely try them out when the CENs fail again. That's the way to keep customers coming back.
Way better than when the one time I called Traxxas, after laying down $wayytoomuch$ for their revo CVDs just to have two diff cups shatter and two drive pins shear within 5 mins of very average use (because they used cheap cast steel) and asked if this was normal. The CS rep basically told me to GFYS. F that, I was done w/ TRX after that and all the $$ I poured into the Revo trying to get it reliable and decent. (overpriced rear brake & CD kits, the TRX pushrods, motor mount, loads of springs, god knows how many tranny gears, slippers, and diffs, HD servo spring, ext arms...etc etc.) Way to kill a cash cow.
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12.02.2009, 08:24 AM
Thanks man :) I like it a lot. Its a great platform as there are so many things you can do to mod it.
As far as the KD stuff goes, from what I've seen (like their DD kit and my motor mount) their machining is just ok. The stuff works, but the finish is rough and they do some weird things as a short cut.
IDK how the chassis is. My mount looks like it was just on a waterjet or something and never polished. After I polished it it looked nice tho.
1/5th scale is very cool. However the bodies are $$$. Something to keep in mind.
I saw a thread over on Savage Central where someone was trying to get a group buy in for a 2" ext savage arms (for a 1/5th scale build.) Jamie would build them, but needs a min order of 10 for the custom work. Looks cool. Perhaps I should post the thread over here and see if there are people here interested. I shouldn't spend anymore money...but it looks very tempting... :)
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12.02.2009, 12:34 PM
Just posted on your thread before reading this.....hmmmm the body thing. That reminds me this was one of the main reasons I never got a baja 5t. I actually saved the money for one but between the price of body, wheels, and my admitted ocd I may never drive the thing. I do NOT want to trap myself into another shelfer. Maybe the savage xl is my happy spot come to think of it. Savage XL arms are the same as the flux arent they??
I was reading on converting a savage xl to brushless and the stock chassis does not seem that difficult to make work on conversion of a flux. I am no hardcore fabber but I believe I would like to attempt to make some CF plates mocked up off the savage xl plates in 4mm tight weave.
I have my eye on some xl plates and center drive shafts now on ebay.
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12.02.2009, 12:44 PM
Ya the two applicable bodies for kerhaws conversion are the XTM mammoth and the duratrax Firehammer. Both shown on thier site. Not a huge fan of either. I am however digging the xl gigante body with my own paint of course. I am leaning in the XL direction for sure.
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12.04.2009, 01:34 AM
So the guy I bought my flux from on Sunday, said it would be sent on weds and have tracking to me same day, now he is saying he would have it out Friday now, due to not being able to find a box. Whats up with people that just think that they can send purchased items out when ever they get around to it. I work 55hours a week and when I sell something I STILL guarantee next day delivery. Oh well. Its a Christmas build anyway.
I asked just to clarify that it is in unran condition and everything comes with...the whole no box thing makes me wonder.  The listing was kinda vague. A little worried.
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12.04.2009, 02:19 AM
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So the guy I bought my flux from on Sunday, said it would be sent on weds and have tracking to me same day, now he is saying he would have it out Friday now, due to not being able to find a box. Whats up with people that just think that they can send purchased items out when ever they get around to it. I work 55hours a week and when I sell something I STILL guarantee next day delivery. Oh well. Its a Christmas build anyway.
I asked just to clarify that it is in unran condition and everything comes with...the whole no box thing makes me wonder.  The listing was kinda vague. A little worried.
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what a coincidence; my flux is a christmas build too. the guy i bought mine from also said he would ship it on Wednesday. he said he shipped it today though via fedex ground. he said it cost him $70. that makes me a little concerned. it only cost me $20 to ship an xtm mammoth and an almost complete mammoth roller complete with 8 tires. seems a little fishy if you ask me. does $70 from south carolina to nevada sound right to anybody?
looks like there might be some stretched truths for both trucks. people just aren't trustworthy these days.  this is why i prefer craigslist. no shipping involved and it is a lot easier to avoid being scammed.
edit: do you have a link the e-bay listing? they remain viewable for 90 days after the auction closes. the link to the ad for mine is in my thread.
They say a good mechanic only needs 2 tools - WD40 & Duct tape. If it moves, and its not supposed to, duct tape. If it doesn't move, and its supposed to, WD40.
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