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Schulze - 02.14.2008, 03:01 PM

How do I even start this one. Look at the pictures.
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02.14.2008, 03:03 PM

A few more.
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02.14.2008, 03:04 PM

and the last 3.
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02.14.2008, 03:06 PM

Ouch..

But you're luckly when my MM gave out it rained FETS on my Lipo's. Melted through 2 layers of shrink and 1mm plastic shield and left burn mark on actual lipo...

Hope you're chassis is not hurt
   
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02.14.2008, 03:14 PM

Let me explain what happened . I found a nice dry spot to run my MBX5T. I was going to run it until my 2200mAh packs didn't have more juice in them. Everything was running very cool since it was 38 degrees and you can also see in the graph I stopped a few times to make sure nothing was over heating. I did a feel full throttle passes and on one pass I slammed on the brakes and did a nice little slide. The truck rolled backwards and I applied some throttle to get it rolling again and smoke . That's when I didn't hesitate and went running towards the truck took the body off and unplugged everything. The flames happened very fast and you can see it almost burned the body and the wires from one of the packs. The Velcro straps melted in a couple of spots. Man, I was loving this controller as all I heard from others was the horrible stories of it catching on fire. So if you have a Schulze and your vehicle rolls backwards, don't hit the throttle. Wait until it comes to a complete stop .
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02.14.2008, 03:17 PM

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Ouch..

But you're luckly when my MM gave out it rained FETS on my Lipo's. Melted through 2 layers of shrink and 1mm plastic shield and left burn mark on actual lipo...

Hope you're chassis is not hurt
The fire happened fast too. I've had ESC burn on me, but it was usually just smoke. I was able to get the body off fast enough and I kind of tilted the truck so the flames and any hot stuff would just fall to the ground. I actually saw that the copper traces was red hot.
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02.14.2008, 03:18 PM

I've had three MM reduce themselves to charcoal worse than this :(

The first was understandable the motor magnet had cracked at created hudge driveline drag.

The last two are still a mystery to me...
   
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02.14.2008, 03:24 PM

This is by far my worst case. It stinks as the truck was very fast and the most AMPs it was using was around 75A spikes. The last when the fire happned the darn AMPs went to 182.
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02.14.2008, 03:25 PM

Looks like another candidate for Serum's burnt Schulze museum...

Luckily, I've never had an ESC burn out on me (knock on wood).
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02.14.2008, 03:27 PM

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I've had three MM reduce themselves to charcoal worse than this :(

The first was understandable the motor magnet had cracked at created hudge driveline drag.

The last two are still a mystery to me...
That stinks man, but Castle is right here in the USA and I will probably not even hear from Schulze if I do send them an e-mail with pictures of the carnage.
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02.14.2008, 03:42 PM

I remember that same happened with me. I raced on dry track then suddenly car stoped i thought maybe it thermaled and start to run from pit stand to downstairs and then i run to truck i saw how white smoke start to fill the track. I opened my car body and felt how heat try melt the car body. In the full of white smoke tried to disconnect battery i burned my hand, those stupid deans! I turned car upside downand start to shake it and ESC fell apart to ground i saw how PCB glow RED. After that i had some complex some fear all the time then i run my E-LSP

Look to this thread http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ht=9920&page=2 Dejavu :)
   
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02.14.2008, 04:24 PM

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I remember that same happened with me. I raced on dry track then suddenly car stoped i thought maybe it thermaled and start to run from pit stand to downstairs and then i run to truck i saw how white smoke start to fill the track. I opened my car body and felt how heat try melt the car body. In the full of white smoke tried to disconnect battery i burned my hand, those stupid deans! I turned car upside downand start to shake it and ESC fell apart to ground i saw how PCB glow RED. After that i had some complex some fear all the time then i run my E-LSP

Look to this thread http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ht=9920&page=2 Dejavu :)
Mine is basically like that. In the pictures, you can see the heat sink is only there because of the shrink wrap. The smell is what drives me crazy. I'll see how well my BK 9920 will drive the 6 pole Mega.
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02.14.2008, 04:29 PM

I'm also extremely happy that this little 2200mAh packs held up. Man 182A should make any other battery a little hot. This little guys stayed cool.
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02.14.2008, 04:51 PM

That's what a schulze looks like.....

added a picture to the gallery..

Thanks for sharing Lutach. simple send it back to schulze and see what they say. perhaps they changed their service for a change.
   
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02.14.2008, 04:54 PM

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