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Traxxas brushless thread - 06.04.2009, 10:08 AM

im new here, and i thought there may be a need for a traxxas thread. im currently in the process of turning my rustler vxl into a 1/8th buggy. i have swapped everything over to a slash chassis, added a wing and ordered a buggy body and some other odds and ends. here are some pics of what i have done so far. any suggestions will be taken into account. other than that tell me what you have???
   
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06.04.2009, 12:38 PM

No need for a seperate sub-forum for every manufacturer, we just tend to make a thread about our individual vehicles and post questions there- think of it as being like your own personal help/advice thread ( researching for ideas will yield more and quicker answers usually anyway, hence why RCM is called 'The Encyclopedia Brushless' ).

What is it you are looking for exactly anyway, just general ideas on future upgrades? I would say ditch the horrid Integy bling and invest in some nice FLM items maybe- lots of stuff out there from lots of different manufacturers; even GorillaMaxx have a Alloy and carbon fibre chassis' available...
   
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06.04.2009, 12:46 PM

2wd 1/8 buggy... interesting.... you will need to replace the front shock tower with a buggy style one. Buggy typically have a lower mounting point then a truck no? I guess you could just have the body sitting high up.
why nust just get an inexpensive roller? you would be surprized how cheap a used rolling chassis can be on ebay under the right circumstances (time, not the newest version, ect).

Good luck with it thought, can't wait to see how it turns out.
   
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Oh, missed the 1/8 buggy conversion bit. I wouldnt even bother personally, you cant turn a slash into a buggy, it just isnt a suitable platform- too tall and unstable in turns. At best I'd say get an extended FLM Rusty chassis and that would be pretty close, otherwise yeah, just get a real 1/8 roller and stick a MMM & 2650kv with 4s lipo in it for a solid setup. Good luck anyway.
   
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06.04.2009, 02:42 PM

suicideneil thanks but no thanks for the input. i said i was new to the forum not to rc. first off nothing on my rc is "bling" i replaced broken plastic parts with stronger aluminum. it has some FLM, STRC, Integy, and Hot Racing. and out of all of those parts i have been least satisfied with the FLM their customer service and support is less than sub-par. All the metals are about the same in strength and quality. And the everything BUT the FLM had a factory fit. So next time why dont you just keep your sour comments to yourself! THANKS
   
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suicideneil thanks but no thanks for the input. i said i was new to the forum not to rc. first off nothing on my rc is "bling" i replaced broken plastic parts with stronger aluminum. it has some FLM, STRC, Integy, and Hot Racing. and out of all of those parts i have been least satisfied with the FLM their customer service and support is less than sub-par. All the metals are about the same in strength and quality. And the everything BUT the FLM had a factory fit. So next time why dont you just keep your sour comments to yourself! THANKS
Hmmm? I'm the peace maker round these parts. I try to see both sides so everybody gets along.

Welcome to RCM. Lots of great brushless knowledge here. Anything thats been tried has been tried here. Including integy parts, which are known to not be made of "metals of the same strength" as you assumed. Also integy shocks are notoriously bad for leaks.

FLM has great customer service and support. Jamie(the owner) is a good guy and RC-Moonster Mike carries the full fastlane line. Either of them would have straightened you out had you stuck with it and allowed them to.

FLM parts sometimes have fitment issues, but they have been proven time and time again to be the strongest parts out there, made of much highher quality aluminum than integy.

It's a cool looking rig, but several have been done here, and they haven't worked out well. Suicideneil wasn't bashing you, he is speaking from experience, and was trying to help you.

If you want a pretty shelf queen then keep doing what you're doing with all that worthless bling. If you want to make a bulletproof racer or basher then listen to the expertss here instead of arguing with them.

Plus Neil's british so all bets are off. He's high on kippers or something


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All the metals are about the same in strength and quality.
Having dealt extensively with metallurgy in my background I can tell you that your statement there is way off.

Welcome to the forum and all but please don't post a silly comment like that again.

Just in aluminum alone tensile strength and hardness vary a great deal. The strongest aluminum alloy is over 100 times stronger than the weakest aluminum alloy. There are so many varying grades and types of every allow nothing even begins to be equal to that of another for any given application. ASME has numerous books with the wide ranging standards of all metals and alloys from plane carbon steel to zirconium and tantalum.

Then you have the way the metals are processed which varies quite a bit even for the same alloy. Metals can be cold rolled, hot rolled, cast, etc. Then there is annealing processes, hardening processes, along with anodizing which does a great deal to improve wear quality of metal on metal contacts. Anodizing alone has various levels which affect the quality and strength based on the type and process of the anodizing. Hardening works the same way and varies a great deal based on the process and desired result.

Also please go back to what _paralyzed_ said and understand neil is only offering help and advice. He can be a bit abrasive but that is just his British personality coming through.


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06.04.2009, 04:07 PM

Hi 83Bronco

RCM is a great place to learn brushless. It's a lot more in depth than the Traxxas forums & the keeping a sense of humour is a nice way to approach threads & posts

There are some mighty big brains here that will give you excellent advice, some of which may contradict what is assumed correct elsewhere, some advice you may not like?

IMO, keep telling everyone about your project...everyone enjoys a project, listen to what's said, take the advice you like - leave the stuff you don't...you'll work out who's giving the good advice soon enough

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06.04.2009, 04:22 PM

2wd buggy sounds like fun. As it sits, I would upgrade the bulkhead, bellcranks and servo saver.


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suicideneil thanks but no thanks for the input. i said i was new to the forum not to rc. first off nothing on my rc is "bling" i replaced broken plastic parts with stronger aluminum. it has some FLM, STRC, Integy, and Hot Racing. and out of all of those parts i have been least satisfied with the FLM their customer service and support is less than sub-par. All the metals are about the same in strength and quality. And the everything BUT the FLM had a factory fit. So next time why dont you just keep your sour comments to yourself! THANKS
easy tiger i dont think neil said anything about you being new. He just stating his opinion.

And i agree with texas...integy and flm DO NOT use the same materials.

anyways, cool idea, but you may need to look into some custom parts for the front end. May also want to look into somhow widening the footprint to achieve a 1/8 stance.
   
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06.04.2009, 04:39 PM

PS do not put an Aluminum bulkhead on - you need a sacrifical component in the front end - The bulkhead is the best.

The FLM extended arms and CVD kit is worth looking at...

This is my pede: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16281
   
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06.04.2009, 04:50 PM

yup. a boy at our track has the integy rear shock tower on his rustler and he has bent it tons of times (so soft you can bend i back with plyers, and when i had my flm tower on my rustler there was no way in hell youd be able to bend it by hand with plyers...

the 1/8th 2wd out of the slash is a fun car to run you should really enjoy it, but if you really want excessive traction go for the komodo LP truggy tires on full offset ofna wheels... they are awesome. the STRC parts are good so no worries there.

what body you gonna run on it? also gorillamax has the new gs1 chassis it make more clearance for the buggy body at the sides and front and it moves the servo closer to center also so you could check into that...
   
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06.04.2009, 05:23 PM

The g-maxx chassis does look cool. I was thinking of getting one for my hyper suspension pede...

The komodo tires are great at the track, but wear a bit fast on the street. I like badlands or bowties (not the soft compound) for street tires as they can still handle of road.

As for integy, the parts are made of weaker al and not heat treated either. Some of the stuff even looks cast to me...
   
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2wd buggy sounds like fun. As it sits, I would upgrade the bulkhead, bellcranks and servo saver.
im planning keeping the stock bulkhead as a break point. i have a kimbrough servo saver and strc bellcrank on order just waitn to get them in the mail.

and a few of you guys recommended some widening, i already have flm extended arms, so i ordered some strc 17mm hubs that have a bit of offset compared to the new era ones i currently have on her.
   
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06.04.2009, 07:03 PM

You'll learn to love me.

If you want Slash > 1/8 2wd buggy, then I have an ace up my sleeve to prove Im not just a nasty Integy hater...although I am:

http://www.ultimatetraxxas.com/projects/backslash/



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