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stuck with 4s, What C and mah ratings you run ? -
10.03.2009, 11:59 PM
probably run mmm w 2200, told she is a
power hog, and worried about heat on
it and the battery
looking at these batteries right now
5000 25c
5200 24c
6000 28c
or am i stuck looking for higher c rated
ala 30 or 40c
Just curious what others are running for
both runtime, then continous to burst
ratings.
I do plan on racing, just getting into it.
Last edited by jlast; 10.04.2009 at 12:00 AM.
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Z-Pinch racer
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10.04.2009, 02:15 AM
Get something like this, Hyperion G3 packs, excellent packs.
http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...od=HP35C55004S
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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RC-Monster Spudgunner
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10.04.2009, 11:37 AM
If you go cheap, better do it on zippies. With them, you run a risk of ruining your packs. I would go for the 30c packs. I heard a nasty rumor all the zippies are the same c rating, but I can't back that up.
Hyperions are definately the best packs availible at the moment. They have a nice price on them too. Also check out polyquest and flightpower.
I would not get zippies and I would for sure get they hyperions.
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RC-Monster Stock
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10.04.2009, 11:54 AM
Packs above are hard case, losi/smc. Just was wondering about the draw of the 2200 setup, and then heat on the battery. was curious if anyone had some experience or real world numbers on amp draw in a truggy setup.
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RC-Monster Spudgunner
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10.04.2009, 12:06 PM
losi and smc packs aren't good packs. There are a few threads on SMC failures around here and losi packs have generic chinese cells and can't compare to a pack like a hyperion.
You would be better off with a softcase pack, if allowed. A TP hardcase pack should perform amazingly, am I right? Look at the Thunder Power 40c packs.
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10.04.2009, 12:50 PM
A buddy of mine recently "burned down" his truck in the middle of a race with a 40c TP hard case pack. Now, he isn't the brightest bulb mechanically(and has recently re-entered the hobby after a few years layoff), but fire is fire.
Personally, I would stick with the G3 Hyperion packs - the price/performance/quality ratio with these packs is unsurpassed IMO. For 4s use in a truggy with the 2200Kv combo, I wouldn't use anything less than 5kmah and 25c, but the 35c variant would be even better(the 5500mah 35c packs linked would be superb).
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Fat Kid Engineering
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10.04.2009, 05:00 PM
Zippys being under rated, news to me considering I run 4s & 5s 30C plus ?
Anything is possible I reckon ?
Hyperions or Polyquest can't go wrong,I just acquired (2) PQ 30C 4s 4550mah and they are AWESOME Packs,20+minute run in a 1/8 buggy !!!
Thunder Power are always rockin' but big $$
Losi packs are over rated fer sure, friends were deeply disapointed for the funds spent.
I retired from RC, now life is all about guns and long range shooting.
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10.04.2009, 08:31 PM
ok so no losi pack, lol.
I am a firm believer of running what others run based on there experience with the different cells, etc.... to be 100% honest there is NO one that run hyperion cells, at all. i watch everything
offroad around here. from crawlers to sC stuff to 1/8 buggies.
most are losi, smc, few tp.
Im not against zippys, but for just a little more i am looking at the above smc hard packs roar approved new.
Racing based off of Roar rules, but not strict BUT if i am spending the money why not be roar complaint.
I figured on hard pack to last longer with the the jumps and landing ??
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10.04.2009, 08:50 PM
The G3 Hyperion packs are hands down better than Losi or SMC packs. Maybe NO one you know runs the G3 hyperions, but it is rather unlikely that these folks have near the experience and knowledge of the folks that hang out here. Not everyone here runs the Hyperions, but anyone that does knows the deal with them.
The problem with most hard packs is that the cells aren't atached to the case, so they actually bang around slightly inside, where a soft case pack can be attached directly via the straps used to hold it. Also, you may not see a issue that develops with a hard case pack(because the pack itself is hidden inside the hard case).
In the end, its your money, your car and your decision. I have been around the block a few times and can only tell you what my thoughts are. The fact that the locals in your area aren't running them only indicates that they either don't know any better(likely), are perhaps sponsored in some way and run the packs provided, or simply bought what they saw an advertisement for. If you can get away without using a hard case battery, I would suggest it. The Hyperion G3 packs specifically. :)
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10.04.2009, 10:01 PM
Im running 5500 35C Hyperions in my Emaxx with a 1515/1.5D/F gear at 45mph. After 30 minutes the packs come off at 103-110F. Awesome packs! lots of power punch and runtimes.
I would definitely get more Hyperions anytime I need lipo's. If not, I would be getting some Zippies. I would definitely skip the SMC and Losi packs. Waste of time.
If you want to venture, hobbycity.com has the new Polyquest 45C/90C packs at a decent price.
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10.07.2009, 03:15 AM
Nicely said Mike.
Yeah, all I can say about the G3 packs so far (have had them since May) is that they are top notch performance, very good quality (build and cell matching tolerances), and have a VERY decent price tag compared to other brands of the same or lesser performance packs. Whatever cells they use, they state 4x cycle life over previous last gen packs, which is a HUGE plus as most packs don't make it past their 100th birthday, cycles. (although might have something to do with user neglect)
Just to compare a G3 pack to another Hyperion (older Enerland cell based) VX pack is my race Revo at the track will consume on average about 165mah/min, and with the Enerland packs, on average 180mah/min. This is because to do a certain amount of work, requires a certain amount of power, and power = volts x amps.... and because there is more voltage available in the G3 pack (less voltage drop), the system requires less amps, and less amps equals more runtime. The G3 packs have a very flat discharge curve as well, which is very nice when racing (throttle feel).
The Hyperion G3's are your best investment presently in batteries.
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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10.08.2009, 01:49 PM
curious
g3 are not new enerland cells ? confirmed ?
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10.09.2009, 09:00 PM
No, they are not. The cell manufacturer is unkown as yet, at least to me. Try searching around on some forums like RCGroups, or Helifreaks forums... whoever makes them, they are, IMO, the best 'all-around' packs on the market.
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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Im not dark, Im over ripened! xD
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10.09.2009, 09:03 PM
I run:
Flightpower 5000mah 4s 30C
Zippy 4000mah 4s 20C
SMC 4100mah 4s 28c
Benjamin White
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Jq the car, LST, Sportweks turmoil pro
Unconventional Techniques, Superior Results
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