What's the best Truggy motor/esc setup?

[GO-RIDE.com]

I currently have a Losi 8B with a MMM V3 and Medusa 60x2000 that I run with a 4S 4900 lipo. I runs well, but the Medusa gets a bit hotter than I like. My buddy has a Losi 8T with a MMM and 2200 Castle/Neu combo that runs on a 4S 5000 lipo. It runs really strong, but his lipo gets warm and puffs a bit on long runs.

I want to build a Truggy next and I have a few questions about motor/esc/lipo combos.
1. I'm torn between staying with 4S and a 2000kv to be easier on the ESC or going with 5S or 6S and 1400ish kv to be easier on the lipos and motor.
2. As powerful as the Castle 2200 motor is I'm not a fan of it's high amps, so I'm looking for something else. If I go Medusa should I be looking at a 70mm or 80mm? My 60mm 2000kv runs a bit hot (never over 170) in my buggy.

[magman]

I would go w/either a 70 Medusa 1600kv on 6s or a 1515 2.5D on 5s. In my Revo 3.3 conversion I am running the RX8 1550 on 6s which is another option. A 1700kv 4038 Tekin on 5s would also do nicely

[E-Revonut]

Well if you want the best you better be prepared to shell out the money! Also 4s is actually harder on the esc than 5-6s as the amp draw is higher with the lower voltage when geared for the same speed. I run 5s in my truggy and it's plenty of power for the track or bashing. If you want the best motor look at a genuine Neu, on 5s the 1515 2.5D is a great choice, that's what I run and I know a few others here are running the same thing on 5s in their truggies. The Mamba Monster is still a great choice for an esc. Other than that combo you could try the Tekin combo, They have a 1700kv truggy motor, I beleive, that should be a strong setup on 5s as well. I have also run a 36-70-1600 Medusa in my truggy on 5s. It did well and temps weren't to much higher than the Neu but I would opt for an 80mm if I bought another one.

As you can see there are some options but I would def urge you to step up to at least 5s for a truggy and there's no need to go as low as 1400kv. Higher voltage should be easier on all the electronic components.

[pinkpanda3310]

I rate these motors in this order- neu, tekin, castle neu, medusa

Neu- cause of it's temps but you may like to block the holes
tekin- cause it has a range of kv and blocked holes
castle- neu cause it's price to performance is great and has blocked holes
medusa- same as last except the holes are open

I have a neu 1515 1y on 6s2p a123's and a medusa 80mm 1600kv blocked holes on both and a heatsink on the medusa. Both have similar temps but the kv difference means I run the neu with higher top speed. But geared right the medusa is not far behind.

[Finnster]

I really like my Tekno Neu 2.5D on 5S. RCM Mike had a # of trugs running this as well, tho I don't know what he's got now. I know the Tekno guys like a 3D on 6S. Rly any of them should do so long as you get quality batts upto the job.
I initially had Zippy-Hs, they had lots of power, but qual is so so. Good for the price, but expect some troubles. I have some Neus now that I like alot, and the new Hyperions look good as well.

[stum]

I was sold on the Neu 1515 2.5d w/ 5s setup, but the other night I was forced to drop in my spare 1515 1y (castle 2200) and kept the 5s, dropped to a 12t long shank pinion and man she was a BEAST! I rocked on the qualifier, hit 10 laps, and had a chance for first in the a-main but I didn't calculate the reduced run time and my packs didn't make it the full 12minutes (5s 5k) so I ended up just holding on to 3rd place.. luckily I had some laps up on field so as I waited on a corner for the last minute or two after I hitting the LVC I didn't get pushed too far back. My Neu is in for repair so I'm racing the Castle 2200 again tomorrow if it doesn't get rained out.. This time I snagged a 50t spur w/ the 12t pinion and I will use my bigger packs for the a-main. I can go w/ a 4s 9k setup or a 5s 6k setup either should do the trick. I'm not sure if the 4s maybe a touch on the slow side geared as low as I am, but I will give it a shot tomorrow during practice and see.

Anyway gearing is easier for a 5s setup around 1700kv, gearing is easier for a 6s setup around 1300kv, if you are going w/ a 4s setup 2000kv is best, but the 2200 (or 1y is very common and cheap!) but with it you will have to exersize throttle control as you will be geared for over 40 maybe pushing 50mph depending on your truggy and available gearing. If I run 5s tomorrow I will be dialing back my dx3r to 90% throttle to keep my top speed around 38mph.

[GO-RIDE.com]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm thinking of trying 6S with a lower KV motor to keep everything cool. However, does 5S and 6S create more heat through the BEC? That's what I was worried about with the higher voltage.

[E-Revonut]

With the switching type bec in the newer escs there is no additional heat, or at least not enough to be of concern

[GO-RIDE.com]

Ok, I believe I've decided on 5S 5000mah lipos for the truggy and a 1600-1700kv motor. I currently have a MMM and Medusa 60x2000 on 4S in my 1/8 buggy and it runs great, but seems to have 2-stroke power band. A small pull on the throttle is not much, but a bit more pull and it over jumps.

The two systems I'm deciding on are:
1. MMM & Medusa 80 x 1600kv on 5S
2. Tekin RX8 & Tekin 1700kv truggy motor on 5S

The MMM & Medusa has been very reliable, but lacks a bit in finese on the race track. I also like the idea of having two of the same ESCs. However, I'm interested in trying the Tekin system forseeing that I can get one with the new rotor.

What do you think?

[E-Revonut]

I would try the Tekin. The motors are sealed up for car use. I would have gotten one if they where available when I built my truggy

Hello is the Tekin ESC at 6s ok ? or it has many defective ?