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Can you hear me now? - 05.03.2009, 03:26 AM

I have decided that along with a BL savage, i want to re-do my sound system. I have had the Same Costco radio for 4 years now. what attracted me to it in the first place was the fact that it came with a 4" sub. it has been so long i don't remember the exact specs.... i was thinking of running a 400watt amp, and sub. Can get a setup like that for $150 or so. thinking of running stock speakers. I don't know much about sound...systems, so i do need some help. My current sub and head unit are connected by a cable with a circle connector (with prongs inside) on each end. not sure if this is universal, most i've seen just have a copper wire that is clamped to get a connection... I do not have much to spend. just looking to give it a facelift, and maybe shake the house while i'm at it. looking for you're thoughts on equipement. Takedown reccomended parts express. They seem to have good prices on car audio equipment. I was also shocked to find out that subs actually do produce a voice, not just boom boom. I unpluged both my speakers, and turned up the treble and the base down. I'll be damned, i could hear the guys voice. I'm sure this would be greatly magnified with a higher power sub, and i am going to be running 1-2 stock speakers. What do you think?
   
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05.03.2009, 04:42 AM

Sounds like you need a low-pass crossover if your subs are producing voice. Most subs can produce sound up to about 1.2 KhZ, which is well into the range of the human voice. A 180 hZ low-pass crossover will make things sound much better.
   
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05.03.2009, 04:44 AM

so much is wrong with what you said that i don't know where to begin. maybe after some sleep i will try to help. for now, stop buying car audio equipment from costco.


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05.03.2009, 04:51 AM

Oh yeah, check out this site- www.ddpproducts.com

I bought all of my equipment from them except for the CD deck (Alpine of course). The Logic Soundlab stuff is what I have- the ZXW12 subs are awesome, especially for ~$100 each. They aren't "cheap" either. They weight about 14#.

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what the heck, here goes- subs can produce voice sounds but shouldn't. subs are made to boom. if you are feeding voice frequencies into it, you are wasting power, because your inside speakers are supposed to be playing your higher frequencies. a crossover, as mentioned above, directs the right frequencies to the right speakers. a high pass crossover allows frequencies hiigher than its set point to pass, and a low pass cossover allows frequencies below its set point to pass. a combination of the two, allowing a narrow range of frequencies to pass, is called a band pass.

you can place subs in a trunk because low frequencies are omni-directional. however, to hear higher frequencies you need to be inline with the actual driver (speaker), so even if voices were coming out of your sub, you wouldn't hear them.

inside your car, speakers are paired left/right. front left/right and rear left/right. the sound front to rear is the same, but there are different sounds coming from your left and right speakers, so you would never run 1 speaker, it would be in pairs. you could get away with only using fronts, as you sit in the front.

the common way to send information from your head unit to your amp is via an rca, or patch cable. just like the 3 cables to hook up vcr's or video games (the red white and yellow ones) without the yellow. yellow is video. you will still need power, ground, and a remote turn on lead for your amp. The turn on lead also comes from your head unit.

I really like crutchfields for buying audio equipment. name brand stuff, excellent customer service, great shipping and you can learn tons from their little tutorials.

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05.03.2009, 05:27 AM

Crutchfield is nice, but wayy overpriced IMO. Although most of the brands they sell are overpriced to begin with. You'd be better off finding what you want from their catalog (since they sell pretty much everything) and buying it elsewhere. I bought my Alpine CD deck from them, then I saw it on eBay NIB, BIN, for $100 less.
   
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05.03.2009, 05:57 AM

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Crutchfield is nice, but wayy overpriced IMO. Although most of the brands they sell are overpriced to begin with. You'd be better off finding what you want from their catalog (since they sell pretty much everything) and buying it elsewhere. I bought my Alpine CD deck from them, then I saw it on eBay NIB, BIN, for $100 less.

i have allways said, find it on crutchfield - buy it on ebay


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05.03.2009, 12:37 PM

A 4" sub? -either that is a typo or it's going in your Savage....

Even Subway gives ya 6 inches lol

www.CarAudioDeals.com has decent stuff CHEAP.

I'd only use Crutchfield for cross reference/ install info...
   
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05.03.2009, 12:56 PM

well I'm not so sure he's talking about car audio as he said shake the HOUSE. A lot of the same stuff applies though


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well I'm not so sure he's talking about car audio as he said shake the HOUSE. A lot of the same stuff applies though
funny, he mentioned car audio prices at parts express, and my mind went all car audio. his querys and 4" sub make more sense in a house.

so my new answer is: just get a powered subwoofer, don't bother with a seperate amp and driver. crutchfield is still a good place, people are right, better prices elsewhere, but they will school you in home audio as well.


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05.03.2009, 04:01 PM

car audio --- cheaper from what i've seen. Thanks all for the replies. haven't bought anything from Costco in like 3-4 years. i'm going to shop all those places, to see what i will need. here is a big question --- will JUST a sub and amp make my house rumble? Not looking to spend more then $200.... like I said, i got a BL savage on the way. Which wont be cheap. i had just heard that for under $200 i should get a sub and a amp that will rock. Then use 1-2 stock speakers for trebble (sp). It is only like a 100W system, probably less. If i cannot use my crappy head unit, i'm out. my stock system did some with a seperate powered sub. but I'd like a bigger one. I thought i'd need an amp --- or no?

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I am officially still confused......
   
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05.03.2009, 04:34 PM

its confusing. you're stating CAR audio, but want to shake a HOUSE. Do you want to put stereo equipment in your car, or your house?


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