Project: Something a little different

[Dagger Thrasher]

Hey guys,

Just thought I'd fill you all in on my latest project. Unfortunately, I've decided to scrap the LiteSpeed Speed Record car that I was working on, because of various reason which I won't go into here (to do with how the event was being "run"). Anyways, I've started on something completely different, and I though you guys might be interested; it's going to be a brushless (and British!) Schumacher Havoc:



The Havoc isn't a hugely common truck, so for anyone who doesn't know much about it, it's a seriously tough 1/8th, 2WD "Stunt Truck". I managed to pick mine up for £120 with only about 6 runs on it, and have stripped it right down, cleaned her up, rebuilt her and of course removed all that nitro rubbish. I just can't get over how overbuilt this thing is though...I've never built such an insanely beefy truck! Seriously. The transmission is all hardened steel with exception to the spur (nylon to act as a fuse if needs be), with no pansy slipper clutch and a massive, steel ball differential. The chassis is 4mm-thick 6082 aluminium, and all the suspension components are huge and made from glass-fibre infused plastics. There's loads of M4 hardware. The machine also uses a lot of CSC...similar to carbon fibre, but uses glass fibre every other layer so it's a bit heavier, but even tougher (more impact resilient). Even the rollbar is 6mm stainless steel! Here's some more pics:







Anyways, I'm just going to turn this into an overpowered bashing machine. I'll CAD-up a custom motor mount, and I'm looking at perhaps running the Castle 1515 1Y motor when it's released, on 5 or 6S LiPo...maybe a big Zippy-H pack, or I might spend a bit more. I'd like to use a 1515 2.5D, but it doesn't look like CC will be releasing that wind and I can't really stretch to a proper Neu. It'll use a new MMM that I have sitting here, unused, though how long that'll last is anyone's guess right now.

I'll post more updates as they come, though they might not be for a while...I'm not super-wealthy right now lol. Thanks for looking.

[TexasSP]

Beefy. Had you not shown pictures of the underside, one would think that thing is brand new. Looks like a nice little project.

[MetalMan]

This will be an interesting conversion to watch! Only thing I don't like about it is the small bore shocks. But hey, it'll still be fun!

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by MetalMan

This will be an interesting conversion to watch! Only thing I don't like about it is the small bore shocks. But hey, it'll still be fun!

Maybe dagger could put a set of lst shocks on it...

Looks like a fun project, gotta love the torx hardware!

[suicideneil]

Definately beefy....

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

Definately beefy....

Just how you like it, huh Neil?!!?!?!?

[brushlessboy16]

wow linc.... might want to fab up some hex adapters for the wheels. i dont think Shumacher's(sp) holding design will like brushless...

Looks like a great build

[TDC57]

looks like a very stout truck, nice build so far, I'll be looking forward to future progress updates.

Have a great one..

[dirt101]

2wd will be fun with a 1515. I can tell already.

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

Those shocks do look thin, might have to put a wheelie bar on being only RWD

[Dagger Thrasher]

Cheers guys, thanks for the encouragement (always nice to get approval from all your experienced minds )!

About the shocks...at first I was a little dubious too, but they actually shouldn't be a problem area. They're bottom-fillers so there are no caps to be blown-out, they have 3mm hardened shafts and they're fairly smooth. If I have any issues with them then I might look into changing them for some beefier big-bore units, but for now they seem fine and smooth. LST shocks won't fit unfortunately, but they would look pretty uber on there lol!
BrushlessBoy, the Havoc's wheel-mounting design is actually pretty solid (though it doesn't look it in the photos there). What you can't see in the pics are a large, aluminium wheel adaptors that key into the stub axles and then interface to the wheels over a large area using a proprietary design. It's a really strong setup, but it kinda limits wheel options...so at some point I'll probably fit Schumacher's optional 23mm hex kit. She'll also be getting a wheelie bar on there for sure (the stock rear bumper is cracked anyway, so it's not on atm).

I really can't wait to finish this thing...it should be an fun basher! The one concern that I have is LiPo physical durability when I'm doing serious jumps, though I'm hoping that the RC-M battery trays will take care of that. And yeah, a 1515 will be a handful...but I'm told that the Havoc handles its horsepower really well for a RWD truck. Should be a lot of fun! I best get on with designing a motor mount...

[rootar]

i watched some of the havoc videos on youtube a long while back and they do handle the power surprisingly well for a 2wd truck much better than a 2wd emaxx it seems.


and since you are building a "stunt truck" its gonna be a requirement that you jump it over your house or something else crazy and post the video for us.......

[MetalMan]

If you're worried about Lipo durablity, would you consider A123 cells? They're a lot more durable than Lipo, and to me seem like they'd be better suited to a "stunt" truck.

[tc3_racer_001]

Originally Posted by MetalMan

If you're worried about Lipo durablity, would you consider A123 cells? They're a lot more durable than Lipo, and to me seem like they'd be better suited to a "stunt" truck.

+1 :)

[pullinteef]

Hehe, those look like NBB shocks. That is, Not Big Bore. They look extra narrow. I never understood the whole BB shock thing anyway. Looks like it will be fun though.