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RC-Monster Brushless
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Neu Motor Running Hot -
06.25.2008, 06:20 AM
Running a Neu 1512 2.5D on a Losi 8ight geared at 14T/46T (44mph calculator) with 5S 5000mah 25C/50C batteries and MMM ESC. Batteries are only around the 95F - 112F and MMM is 100F - 125F (measuring through the gaps for the heat sink) and the motor gets up to 145F - 165F (it is currently winter here in Australia although no snow etc. still warmish). I am running standard diff fluids for the Losi 8ight Roller F - 3000 C -5000 R - 2000 and measuring it with the Duratrax Temp Gauge. I read on here in the FAQ section that usually when just the motor is hot it is undergeared but wouldn't really think you would need to gear for more than 44mph. Can changing the diff fluid here at all?
Losi 8ight
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Airtronics MX3 2.4Ghz
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Neu 2.5D/F
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06.25.2008, 06:37 AM
I would gear up. Maybe I am putting something wrong in the calc but with 14/46 gearing a 1650kv motor and 18.5v I am only coming up with 36mph.
I ran a 1512 3d(1700kv) in my 8 and believe I was running 17/44.
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Last edited by gixxer; 06.25.2008 at 06:39 AM.
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RC-Monster Brushless
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06.25.2008, 06:53 AM
Losi 8ight
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TP 5S 5000mah
Neu 2.5D/F
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06.25.2008, 08:00 AM
I'd honestly try gearing down first. If that doesn't help then go up.
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06.25.2008, 08:22 AM
DRIFT - this is sounding very much like the same problem I am having with my buggy that I just posted about.
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13040
What tires are you running? I noticed my problem seemed to be worse when running the Moab 1/8 buggy tires compared with others - there seems to be a 0.5" ballooning effect going on with these tires which will throw the overall gearing off when at WOT.
Also - where and how are you running? Are you racing on a track or bashing around in parking lots/dirt/grass fields?
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06.30.2008, 02:43 AM
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I'd honestly try gearing down first. If that doesn't help then go up.
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Well I tried gearing down. Went down to a 13T and temps did drop. ESC was running at 105F, Bat 96F and ESC was around 155F - 165F and that was after 15 minutes of racing around the track. Couldn't test no more as battery was starting to run slow. It was the same battery I have been using all day. I found myself using WOT alot more with the 13T over the 14T & 15T but it temps stay around there I wouldn't mind. I only have a 13, 14 & 15T pinion so can't really test out other sizes but don't see why I would need to anyway. Charge battery up tonight and go out tomorrow and see if temps stay down. It is also late afternoon here so temps aren't as high as what they were earlier in the day
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06.25.2008, 08:25 AM
sorry I was thinking 1515 2.5d
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06.25.2008, 09:06 AM
Those are normal temps, that is what I have been getting for the last two years and my motor runs great. I race every weekend all year round.
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06.25.2008, 10:01 AM
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Those are normal temps, that is what I have been getting for the last two years and my motor runs great. I race every weekend all year round.
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My concern is not about 165*, it is when I see the temps going over 170 and climbing up to 180. I don't want to risk demagging a $250 motor.
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06.25.2008, 10:05 AM
Those are not bad temps. I would put heavier diff fluid in the center maybe, like 7k or 10k (I like 10K in mine).
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06.25.2008, 10:20 AM
I get 170 -180 on my Feigao 8XL all the time. And it's been running like a champ for over two years. I think you will be ok with 145 - 165 temps on your Neu.
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06.25.2008, 12:21 PM
Yes, but what will he do when the weather starts getting warmer? He said it was winter. I would have to agree and say you should gear down, and if that doesn't make it better than gear up a bit. But I agree, I would never run a neu motor if its getting that hot all the time, to much money to risk.
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06.25.2008, 12:46 PM
Check your timming setting on your ESC.
On a "d" wound motor, your timming should not be higher than 10 degre. 0-5 is the best. Higher and it'll heat up.
On a "y" wound motor, you could go over 10 degre
David
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06.25.2008, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by david lamontagn
Check your timming setting on your ESC.
On a "d" wound motor, your timming should not be higher than 10 degre. 0-5 is the best. Higher and it'll heat up.
On a "y" wound motor, you could go over 10 degre
David
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David
do you know the theory behind that is? this is the first time I have heard it and I am curious.......
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06.25.2008, 03:20 PM
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David
do you know the theory behind that is? this is the first time I have heard it and I am curious.......
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Recommended by Neu (from another forum I believe), as I have heard this as well. Also the instruction sheet that comes with the Neu motors (you do read the instructions right?) says low timing.
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