What is the world coming to....

[lincpimp]

So I was just reading the rules over at the NK forum. I am a member there and wanted to make sure that I did not step outside the lines.

I found a somewhat distubing gramatical issue in the rules. Any word that contained letters that were arranged in order in the word to produce a vulgar or "questionable" term were replaced by the same number of *.

Example, the word assume would be ***ume, thus removing ass from the word.

I am by no means an liberal english major, but this is taking censorship a bit far.

And this kind of BS or ******** is starting to gain some sort of acceptance in our society. I can only imagine the hordes or sheep people that for some strange reason think that this is a good idea. If we do not want to expose children to this then I have a feeling that tv would be a better place to start. Can you imagine watching tv and having to hear the last 3 letters of bypass bleeped out. Utter stupidity.

Not trying to flame the NK forum, and I have seen this done elsewhere as well. Just find it another useless, poorly aimed method of trying to re-establish morals in our degenerating society...

[JERRY2KONE]

Hey there Linc hows it going? Sorry to hear of your delema on the other R/C site. I think the issue is more of a liability issue for the site. I doubt very many people care one flying poop if a kid reads it or not, but if their parent finds out they did, then it would become a law suit issue for the site. Yeh it is too bad that things are going to that extent, but look at all of the other crapp people are pulling, like telling State government that they can not have anything like the bible or cross, or the ten commandments anywhere near a State building. We "America" used to stand up for itself and tell whiners that if they do not like the way we do things, to take a flying leap. Now we say "oh we are sorry if we offended your sensibilities. We will remove our Countries heritage from our buildings. America has become weak even on its own soil. That is the real shame of it all.

[lincpimp]

Excellent point Jerry, nice to hear your thoughts!

That is exactly wht I will always curse in public and yell at people who do things wrong. This country was founded on looking past the BS and trying to make something out of Ones-self. I blame the legal system, judges in particular, for not standing up against this sort of BS.

Who cares if the bible or something religious is written on a building. As long as we are not being taken over buy a bunch of religious fanatics, crap like that does not matter. I am not religious, but could care less if other people are, their beliefs are just that, theirs. What does that matter? All we have are a bunch of free-loaders looking for a quick buck, and they are wasting our money with their stupid court cases. That kind of stuff should be thrown out, and the people responsible (including the lawyers) should be fined heavily.

I try to raise the bar everyday. I was well educated and brought up to always ask questions, and be knowledgable about topics I discuss. I always try to make other people think, and not just go with the popular thought. History shows that the majority of people are more than likely wrong. The majority thought the earth was flat, and that the atom was the smallest thing, look at them now...

Always ask why, you will never go wrong if you strive for knowledge.

That's a bit extreme in the censorship department. America is headed in a very dark direction over all in my opinion... We're losing our edge, our drive, and our spirit I think.

If any of you watch the Bill Moyers Journal, there was a great interview with a retired colonel (name skips my mind, but I know it started with a "B" and sounded Russian) pertaining to where we are as a country at the moment, where we used to be, and where we're going to end up unless we quit being idiots on both the world stage and at home. Interesting skim on PBS's site (the intro to this guy's book) if you wish to read it. It was his (Moyers') most recent interview.

[JERRY2KONE]

Sorry Joe but I have not seen the interview, but there have been a few very smart and very well known people speaking out on this subject. All have stated pretty much the same thing. The USA is steadily moving in a backwards direction due to the greed of our own politicians. Linc you are correct, a lot of this is being filtered down through the legal system from the very judges that we the people elected to those positions. I understand that they go by the letter of the law so to speak, but somewhere along the line they forgot to keep good common sense in the mix. I mean come on a lady gets Micky-D's HOT coffee and drives with it tucked in her crotch between her legs, then wins a crap load of money saying that it was Ronalds fault. What kind of moron judges these cases?

Then there is this downturn in our economy, which is driving half of our country into a bankrupt state of affairs. So who do you think is bailing these banks out? It is the Chinese and the Arab nations who are buying up huge amounts of our realestate and stocks. Soon we won't even own our own country.

[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe

That's a bit extreme in the censorship department. America is headed in a very dark direction over all in my opinion... We're losing our edge, our drive, and our spirit I think.

If any of you watch the Bill Moyers Journal, there was a great interview with a retired colonel (name skips my mind, but I know it started with a "B" and sounded Russian) pertaining to where we are as a country at the moment, where we used to be, and where we're going to end up unless we quit being idiots on both the world stage and at home. Interesting skim on PBS's site (the intro to this guy's book) if you wish to read it. It was his (Moyers') most recent interview.

That was an excellent show. I too cant remember the name of the guy - but his message stuck with me.

This type of censorship is why most of us stopped going to the Traxxas forum.
The best type of censorship is self imposed ("it take a village to raise a child") where as a group you have a common goal, wether it be language, porn, or anything else, as long as the common goal among the members is the same, the people that dont want to conform will move on.

I do agree that some things are way too liberal - prime time TV has some things that most kids under 12 dont need to be watching - but my kids are all grown up, so what do I care, right?!?!?

Originally Posted by JThiessen

That was an excellent show. I too cant remember the name of the guy - but his message stuck with me.

This type of censorship is why most of us stopped going to the Traxxas forum.
The best type of censorship is self imposed ("it take a village to raise a child") where as a group you have a common goal, wether it be language, porn, or anything else, as long as the common goal among the members is the same, the people that dont want to conform will move on.

I do agree that some things are way too liberal - prime time TV has some things that most kids under 12 dont need to be watching - but my kids are all grown up, so what do I care, right?!?!?

Col. Andrew Bacevich (ret.)! That's his name. I'm usually bored crapless when I watch Bill Moyers (Mclaughlin is more my speed). A 19 year old can only take so much of that man's voice....lol!

I agree with you on self imposed censorship. I think that directly correlates to morals/values/mindset, which is a whole 'nother can of worms entirely (and I don't feel like delving into that).

I think it's safe to say we're painting ourselves in a corner. China is on the rise, we're in a crap economy right now (economic cycle will probably hammer itself out, and to be truthful, we should've seen it coming with such a LONG economically prosperous period before our little recession), and socially, well....yeah.... we aren't doing so hot socially I think. Another can of worms.

I think one of our largest problems is that we're trying to play policeman all over the world, and it's starting to hurt us badly. We need to come back home and take a good look at ourselves and our own problems. I'm all for hunting down SOBs that kill people for no good reason, but we still cannot neglect our home. You can't jump someone else's car if your own battery is dead, ya know?

Neil- You Brits have a funny sense of humor...

[ren]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Excellent point Jerry, nice to hear your thoughts!

That is exactly wht I will always curse in public and yell at people who do things wrong. This country was founded on looking past the BS and trying to make something out of Ones-self. I blame the legal system, judges in particular, for not standing up against this sort of BS.

Who cares if the bible or something religious is written on a building. As long as we are not being taken over buy a bunch of religious fanatics, crap like that does not matter. I am not religious, but could care less if other people are, their beliefs are just that, theirs. What does that matter? All we have are a bunch of free-loaders looking for a quick buck, and they are wasting our money with their stupid court cases. That kind of stuff should be thrown out, and the people responsible (including the lawyers) should be fined heavily.

I try to raise the bar everyday. I was well educated and brought up to always ask questions, and be knowledgable about topics I discuss. I always try to make other people think, and not just go with the popular thought. History shows that the majority of people are more than likely wrong. The majority thought the earth was flat, and that the atom was the smallest thing, look at them now...

Always ask why, you will never go wrong if you strive for knowledge.

It is uncanny how many people don't know how often they shoot themselvs in the foot. For instance: The relative minimum wage drops to historic lows so a higher minimum wage is pressed into service by President Bush. As a result employers are not able to pay their employees and must reduce their labor costs(lost jobs). There are countless other instances of this "circular stupidity", in the current economy.
With the US economy as volitile as it is, all it would take is "one small pebble to start an avalanche". It is imperative that we as a people know what is best for ourselves as a whole and act accordingly for the good of the people.

[pb4ugo]

Originally Posted by ren

It is uncanny how many people don't know how often they shoot themselvs in the foot. For instance: The relative minimum wage drops to historic lows so a higher minimum wage is pressed into service by President Bush. As a result employers are not able to pay their employees and must reduce their labor costs(lost jobs). There are countless other instances of this "circular stupidity", in the current economy.
With the US economy as volitile as it is, all it would take is "one small pebble to start an avalanche". It is imperative that we as a people know what is best for ourselves as a whole and act accordingly for the good of the people.

I'm not the most active politico around,and I don't think Bush is/was a great President, but my memory tells me that the Dems forced the minimum wage issue and Bush signed a compromise bill into law to appease them.

[Finnster]

What I don't understand is who they are really trying to protect. Are 10yo really on that forum? Kids start to get pretty trashy mouths at even 13, and considering the pirate language at some of the tracks I've been to, its not like they are going to hear the words somewhere. As long as the language and discussion is not excessively and pointlessly vulgar, I'd just chill out.

[suicideneil]

Kill G.W Bush?

[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

Kill G.W Bush?

Unfortunatly, there would just be another idiot replacing him (no matter what party he is from)!

[pb4ugo]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

Kill G.W Bush?

Get that kind of B.S. off this site.

[suicideneil]

Originally Posted by pb4ugo

Get that kind of B.S. off this site.

Lighten up, lol.

I was merely posting a short and witty reply to ren's lengthy and meaningful post- in particular the last line:

Originally Posted by ren

It is imperative that we as a people know what is best for ourselves as a whole and act accordingly for the good of the people.

Seeing as how Bush, like all politicians respond to problems and events with knee-jerk reactions usually, just to be seen to be doing something, rather than doing something helpful or appropriate.

Besides, killing him would be pointless; he's aleady a braindead zombie...

TexasSP - tell me about it. The UK government is even more useless and inept.

[pb4ugo]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

Lighten up, lol.

I was merely posting a short and witty reply to ren's lengthy and meaningful post- in particular the last line:

Short, yes
Witty, no