Mamba Monster Vs. Novak Hv Pro

hey guys what would be the best for a truggy conversion i read a ariclt about the novak and it sounds pretty good but the monster is also sounding who has some experience in this to help out thank you!

[MetalMan]

I don't have direct experience, but have made some observations. The HV ESC is heavier and has a larger footprint. It is sensored, so your motor choice is quite limited (particularly to Novak motors). The HV won't have the computer programmability, which makes the MMM MUCH more adjustable. It will be more expensive than the MMM. The HV will be rated at 4s but is supposed to be able to handle 5s (MMM can do 6s).

[lincpimp]

I have a feeling that the MMM is capable of nearly twice the output of the Novak. If you intend on buying the MMM/motor combo, it will be a better choice than the Novak.

I read a similar article that was singing the praises of the novak. They had it in an 1/8 buggy, which is about all the novak 380xl size motors can handle. It is nice in the fact it is sensored, but lacks the programability of the MMM.

A truggy has more weight and a heavier drivetrain than a buggy, and the MMM will work better.

I do not see how the MMM is cheaper then the HV Pro (unless someone pre-ordered it from Mike a few months ago and got the discount).
As for the MMM/motor combo, I think castle has shown us that no one (not even them) knows when it will be readily available.
BTW, I do agree that once all of the kinks are worked out of the MMM and once the motor is released (and any possible kinks worked out) it would be a better option for anything larger then a buggy.
But if you want something now, Castle can't help you (unless you happen to have a motor sitting around that is perfect for your truggy already or several hundred dollars for a Neu.
{/End of Rant}

what about the monster and a fiegao xl motor which size would you reccomend.

[sleebus.jones]

Originally Posted by cmcclive

But if you want something now, Castle can't help you (unless you happen to have a motor sitting around that is perfect for your truggy already or several hundred dollars for a Neu.
{/End of Rant}

Oh teh drama!

I don't think you'd have any problem pushing a truggy around with a feigao. If it can throw around my 11# all aluminum and titanium emaxx, a truggy should be no problem. Besides, I happen to think the kv of the castle neu's is a bit high for running in a truggy with 6S.

[MetalMan]

Originally Posted by cmcclive

I do not see how the MMM is cheaper then the HV Pro (unless someone pre-ordered it from Mike a few months ago and got the discount).

Good catch, turns out the HV Pro ESC costs the same as the MMM:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVHB2&P=7
But for the money the MMM still gives you more bang.

Originally Posted by MetalMan

Good catch, turns out the HV Pro ESC costs the same as the MMM:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVHB2&P=7
But for the money the MMM still gives you more bang.

And I am not denying the MMM isn't better (more voltage and amps). But they are still not available to buy today (and have it shipped tomorrow). Also, I want to see if they do anything about the fan wire issue.

Mostly I just like to ramble on, I mean no offence to the castle guys. And I will state I run a Novak system (now I have the new HV-Pro w/6.5 but I have been busy with housework so I haven't installed it yet).

Personally, I am happy I picked the Novak, because back in Jan when I bought it I was being told "oh the MMM is coming out in Feb". We all know where that has gone.... But if I would have waited for the MMM I would have lost a summer of bashing/racing.

[killjoyken]

Originally Posted by cmcclive

And I am not denying the MMM isn't better (more voltage and amps). But they are still not available to buy today (and have it shipped tomorrow). Also, I want to see if they do anything about the fan wire issue.

Mostly I just like to ramble on, I mean no offence to the castle guys. And I will state I run a Novak system (now I have the new HV-Pro w/6.5 but I have been busy with housework so I haven't installed it yet).

Personally, I am happy I picked the Novak, because back in Jan when I bought it I was being told "oh the MMM is coming out in Feb". We all know where that has gone.... But if I would have waited for the MMM I would have lost a summer of bashing/racing.

MM + CCBEC + Feigao on 4s worked fine for me before (and after) the MMM came out. And look, you can still buy it all now!

[Tekno_Addict]

MMM... They don't even compare. I've had both and I don't run Novak anymore. I have the new HV-Maxx system I tried for a week and it's now collecting dust in a drawer.

Trust me, wait for the MMM and don't look back. The sensored system is great and all but it cant put out the power a MMM can.

the MMM is available today. Tower has them. place a backorder and it will magically ship within a day. T
The "fan wire issue" is a non issue. I have run the v1 of the MMM for months without any problems.
The Novak is old technology. limited to 4S. limited motor choices, very limited gearing and it gets very hot, and cant program it on the PC. There is no comparison.

I'd also say the MMM is a better system overall. My dad had the HV-Maxx in his E-Revo and it wasn't that much more powerful than the stock titans tbh. If you go the MMM route you have a ton of motors to choose from as well, anywhere from the expensive but super efficient Neus to the cheaper Feigaos, whereas with the Novak system you pretty much have to go with their motors, which doesn't leave you many options. Plus the programability and the ratings of the MMM beat out the Novak as well, and for the same price. It is an easy choice for me.

Originally Posted by alangsam

the MMM is available today. Tower has them. place a backorder and it will magically ship within a day. T

Are you sure about this? I've had one on backorder for a few weeks now and it has not been shipped yet.

[tc3_racer_001]

and, if your really in LOVE with the novak motors then you can always try to use one with the MMM, but personally you'd be mad!

[SpEEdyBL]

Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001

and, if your really in LOVE with the novak motors then you can always try to use one with the MMM, but personally you'd be mad!

Did you read my post? Mad? The Novak HV ESC makes me mad.

[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by E-Traxxer

Are you sure about this? I've had one on backorder for a few weeks now and it has not been shipped yet.

I ordered back in May, and saw others that ordered after me getting their ship notice. So I called them, and apparently PAYPAL had supposedly rejected the payment (not sure why, as there was NO notification to me). Anyway, gave them my CC and its now shipping.

Just to weigh in on the the debate:
The HV system is much faster than the stock titans. If someone states otherwise, they are either exaggerating, or it was completely set up wrong. I run mine against two trucks that have stock titans in them every time I run, and its night and day. I'd also quesiton the UBEC requirement as stated above - there may be a certain situation or two where Novak would strongly recommend one. They DO need an external LVC though if you are running Lipo.

Now, the MMM is theoretically going to be a better system - IF they get it all working correctly. Its looking to me like there are still issues. But having the built in UBEC, 6S capability, and programmable, its got a lot going for it. I REALLY hope that in a couple months I can post again and say that its far and away the best item I have ever purchased.....