The runners up are closing the gap hopefully:-)

[el tomaso]

Now Novak, LRP and Orion, not in that order, are making new brushless 1/8 motors, that are 4 pole, and actually may be up to the task!

Novaks version: http://www.redrc.net/2011/05/novak-b...rs/#more-42562

Orions: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=262764

LRP:Well I saw them somewhere, very similar to the Orions above, but can't find them. The net is so BIG, I can't keep tabs on every site

Anyone held or driven one yet?

TG

Viper is also coming out with new 1/8's.

[magman]

I am surprised it took Novak this long to build these. Although they are geared more toward the 1/10 market.

the Orions look interesting though...any idea on prices?

[DrKnow65]

Novak can suck it. They've been screwing RC'ers through ROAR for long enough.
They will never get a single penny of my hard earned cash. Period.

I'll stick with Castle and Neu, good for the hobby and good honest people to do business with.

My $0.02... That is all.

[Krawlin]

Originally Posted by DrKnow65

Novak can suck it. They've been screwing RC'ers through ROAR for long enough.
They will never get a single penny of my hard earned cash. Period.

I'll stick with Castle and Neu, good for the hobby and good honest people to do business with.

My $0.02... That is all.

I second that!

Those Orion motors look nice though, I like how the rotor is larger diameter for bigger bearings but steps down to 5mm for pinion gear compatibility. Looks like they have M4 and M3 thread holes on the front endbell too.

[BrianG]

Now, if CC could come out with a sensored motor, it would be nice. Or better yet, a replaceable sensored endcap that could be used on any of their current motors...

[Semi Pro]

Originally Posted by BrianG

Now, if CC could come out with a sensored motor, it would be nice. Or better yet, a replaceable sensored endcap that could be used on any of their current motors...

BEST IDEA EVER!


Patrick your on notice, we must have a removeable/replaceable sensored end cap for current motor, this should be easy for castle, if people can geto build them then it should be no problem for you guys

Why the hate for Novak? What did they do?

[DrKnow65]

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky

Why the hate for Novak? What did they do?

They have intentionally held back the RC market through ROAR regulation arm twisting, forcing racers into an experience of unreliable running gear that lacks performance and increased expense out of sheer greed.

If reliability, cost, and performance were the benchmarks used by the regulating body for RC racing Novak would not only be out of the scene, they would be out of business.

Sorry for the rant, but I didn't want to leave you hanging.

Originally Posted by DrKnow65

They have intentionally held back the RC market through ROAR regulation arm twisting, forcing racers into an experience of unreliable running gear that lacks performance and increased expense out of sheer greed.

If reliability, cost, and performance were the benchmarks used by the regulating body for RC racing Novak would not only be out of the scene, they would be out of business.

Sorry for the rant, but I didn't want to leave you hanging.

Thank you. But why would people support such a company? There are plenty of other decent setups for brushless racing...

And one would surely think reliability and performance to be the most important factors in racing. :O

Brushless is getting less and less expensive, we're getting more and more choices, so one can hope companies such as Novak won't rule the scene anymore. The rise of Asian brushless gear is also slowly appearing all over the RC world, and it's also getting more and more reliable. Once it gets big enough it should drive western prices down too (Hopefully.).

Fortunately, the companies with the biggest and best PR campaigns won't have ALL the power anymore either. Word of mouth has gotten way more powerful with the internet.

[George16]

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky

Thank you. But why would people support such a company? There are plenty of other decent setups for brushless racing...

And one would surely think reliability and performance to be the most important factors in racing. :O

This comment just reminded me of a company named Maxamps .

Novak missed for five years, he can sympathize
But Orion has the meaning of hate - the motor shaft 4.5mm

"Specifications MR8
- Weight 313g
- Length 66.5mm
- Diameter incl. cooling fins 42.9mm
- Shaft diameter 4.5mm
- Shaft length 23mm "

Originally Posted by berserk80

Novak missed for five years, he can sympathize
But Orion has the meaning of hate - the motor shaft 4.5mm

"Specifications MR8
- Weight 313g
- Length 66.5mm
- Diameter incl. cooling fins 42.9mm
- Shaft diameter 4.5mm
- Shaft length 23mm "

That's gotta be wrong. Why would they make a motor in that class that requires a special kind of pinion, BELOW the 5mm mark? What's the point? Just so you can make your own pinions and sell em at a higher price? That's really, really greedy and obvious.

You can probably get a mod that lets you fit 5mm, but because they did that I definately won't support them. It's an extremely arrogant move.

[BrianG]

If that is true, the only way to use 5mm pinions would be to use a sleeve that has a material thickness of 0.25mm. 6mm pinions with a better sleeve would then be a better choice, but still crappy.

I would hope that's a misprint because I can't see them selling a whole lot of them given the ever-increasing array of competition out there...

http://rc-auto.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=14119