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09.16.2006, 05:08 AM
Anyone know anything about XTM? The XTM XLB to be exact. I have a line on one for cheap (no motor) and I'm trying to decide if it would be an ''interesting'' brushless project. I havent ever seen one in person and dont really know anything about XTM. Is it a decent quality product. Or am I just wasting my time. The drivetrain has to be pretty solid, it comes stock w/ a 3.5 horsepower .28 nitro motor.
It certainly would be the bigest brushless Ive seen. Damn thing has an almost 16.5" wheelbase. I'm thinking lehner 22xx and a MGM 160-24 on 6s, put 40 series tires and a truck body and run it like a big truggy?
This is about the best info I have found on it. http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=498 Just hoping that someone has at least seen a driven one and can give me a little insight.
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09.16.2006, 10:07 AM
Funny you mentioned the XLB. I was just handling one yesterday while I was working at Hobby People. XTM is Hobby People's store brand, so we carry everything for it.
I haven't driven one or seen one drive, but just yesterday a guy who owns a XLB came in for about the 10th time to get a replacement 1st speed spur gear (plastic). Of course you could do away with the 2-speed and do something different.
If you do decide to do the conversion, you would certainely have plenty of chassis space!
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09.16.2006, 10:30 AM
I watched a video on it. It does look to have a good turn circle.
I think that may be cause it has no center diff. If you went with
a center diff in it. It would element the first gear problem metal man
mentioned. Help the turning radius to.
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09.16.2006, 12:08 PM
Yeah, the guy that came in yesterday was looking at buying the center diff for the Mammoth ST, which also fits the XLB (same # of teeth). Only problem is (IMO), the Mammoth ST center diff has a steel spur gear.
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09.16.2006, 12:29 PM
MM. How did the build quality look? Did the rest of the drive train look solid?(besides the spur gears) How heavy was it?
Sorry for the rapid fire questions, but I need to make a decision on this today or hes going to ebay with it.
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09.16.2006, 12:54 PM
You have a reply.
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09.16.2006, 01:23 PM
Thanks for the feedback MM. BTW. Your PM Box is full....
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09.16.2006, 01:27 PM
Yeah, I got it :).
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09.19.2006, 12:40 AM
Anyone know if the XLB usues 32p or Mod1 pinion/spurs?
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09.19.2006, 01:34 AM
Mod1.
It really is a truggy with buggywheels and shell.
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09.19.2006, 07:31 PM
It's a little different than a truggy, which would be the Mammoth ST. It's longer, and uses a large support for the wing that attaches to the chassis.
You might just want to get a Ofna Hyper 7/8 differential and put the Kyosho plastic spur gear on it, so you don't have to deal with hardened pinion gears.
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09.19.2006, 07:58 PM
I did buy it and am planning on doing the conversion. I probably won't get it in my hands untill this weekend though. I have been just poking around trying to figure out what what options are available, and what I might want to do with it. I knew the center diff was going to be a little challenge, but i also figured that folks here would have some sugestions. MM Thanks for the sugestion. I'll have to look into what might work once I get the buggy in my hands and can see what I have to work with.
Question: (Every vehicle I have ever had has had a transmision rather than a center diff so this might sound a little dumb) Do center diffs have one way bearings in them? Will I need to keep the mechanical brakes or will I be able to use the motor for the brakes with a center diff?
BTW: My plan for this thing is to make a parking lot racer out of it. Run it on pavement with the imex max foams. This thing is nice and low and should hug the ground pretty well.
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09.19.2006, 08:03 PM
The center diff is just a standard diff with a spur gear instead of a ring gear. You can use the motor's brake and remove the mechanical brakes to decrease the XLB's weight.
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09.19.2006, 09:01 PM
What part numbers would I need to build the Ofna center diff and which Kyosho plastic gear works w/ it?
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09.19.2006, 10:02 PM
You can get the Hyper 7/8 diff on Ebay, and Mike sells the spur gear in the gears section.
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