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[GorillaMaxx360]

Ok first off do you guys think i can hit 50 with 4s lipo, 7XL, 125B, slipperential, 36 revo spur, 15 pinion, hb diffs, and a carbon,ti,and alu. maxx. Next a question for you guys i will be running the above set up and my friend is running 2 novack 6.5 gtb bl combos and 2s lipo on each esc also he is pretty much going all rpm exept for stock chassis and misc. alu (like bulk and other alu necessities). In you opinion what speeds do you think he will be getting. also do you guys think i can out handle him and or be faster. both trucks are going to be set pretty much the same on shock rate and ride hight. what do you guys think any advice. :028: ,:030: ,

[BrianG]

Well, assuming you are using 5.6" tires, I figure top speed will be ~23mph. The spur/pinion, HP Pro diffs, and slipperential create a 22.704:1 ratio...

[GorillaMaxx360]

why is it so slow what can i do to hit 50 with that bl combo

[BrianG]

It looks like the thing that's killing you is the high total reduction ratio. The HP diffs are 4.3:1. The slipperential is 2.2:1. And the spur/pinion is 2.4:1.

To get that speed, with all the values you listed, you'd have to use a 32T pinion. :eek:

Basically, you need to reduce the total reduction ratio. If you went with a direct center diff drive (removes the slipper though) and went with a typical 46T spur, and went with 5s (will run close to a hot 40k rpm though), you could use a 15T pinion and hit a theoretical 50.1mph (excluding tire ballooning).

[GorillaMaxx360]

what is it that makes it slow is it the gearing or what because that motor is fast and i am running 4s lipo so why so slow and how can i get to 50

[coolhandcountry]

What hb diffs are you running? The 3.31 or 4.3 to 1 ratio. I think brian is figuring
a 4.3 ratio.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry

What hb diffs are you running? The 3.31 or 4.3 to 1 ratio. I think brian is figuring
a 4.3 ratio.

Yeah, I'm figuring 4.3:1...

[GorillaMaxx360]

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...d=HPI_PRO_DIFF i am talking about these hb diffs i would like to realistically hit betweenm 40-45 and i will commit to doing that any way i can with out changing electronics so if you could tell me what spur to use and all that stuff to hit 50 that would be good plus i am taping my tires so there should not be much balooning.

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...d=HPI_PRO_DIFF i am talking about these hb diffs i would like to realistically hit betweenm 40-45 and i will commit to doing that any way i can with out changing electronics so if you could tell me what spur to use and all that stuff to hit 50 that would be good plus i am taping my tires so there should not be much balooning.

you want these

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...HPI_BUGGY_DIFF

the ratio of the ones above are 3.31:1 as opposed to the ones you listed, which are 4.3:1. just to let you know the stock maxx diffs are 2.85:1

[BrianG]

Yeah, that's the diff that's 4.3:1.

Like I said, the total reduction is what's killing you. And since the Revo spurs don't come any smaller than 36T, you're kinda stuck. Even if you could get a pinion over 22T, would the motor still fit in the slipperential adjustment slots??

[GorillaMaxx360]

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this is what i am using i do not minde changing the pinions, spur gear to get the result of 40 or more. but if there is absoulutly no way to hit in the mid 40s just by changing the spur gear i could possably change the motor (must be under $150) and or change the diffs to maxamizer if this helpes with speed(only if you think they will hold up) i would prefer to get the speed i want buy changing pinions and gears so lets see if we can hit that speed with that in minde and if all else fails maby i could change some of the others

[GorillaMaxx360]

So even if i get the 3.31 hb diff because i am getting a slipperential i cannot reach as high speeds as with the regular trans g1 i mean

[GorillaMaxx360]

what if i get the maxamizer diffs less ratio than both hb diffs could i still hit those speeds with the electronics or will i need to drop the slipperential to reach those speeds.

[sjcrss]

yes, because the slipperential is geared toward the racer within the low to mid 30's for speed...if you all all out drag racing then you need to go a differ route, but when racing on a track it is not all about speed, yes that is nice....but you need to be able to handle it on the track as well...this is some of the things i learned at the bash

[GorillaMaxx360]

so i will be bashing but racing too it will acutally be on a parking lot racing at hobby town. so you are saying i probably will not get over 35 on the track anyway and if i do it will be to uncontrolable to mess with.