Need some help from the local gurus...

I currently own one 1/8 brushless truck- savage Flux- and I came to the conclusion I'd like to try a truggy and sell the Flux (It is very modified to be near truggy-like ...more on that later).

So... I dont want to spend any money that I do not have to because my wife is getting seriously fed up with my toy spending. I guess bad economic times does this lol. What recession? So yeah, I need to lose the Flux to make another truck feasable to avoid divorce. With that said, I am looking for the best - most durable - and lightest truggy money can buy for that winning combo. It has to bash with the best of them, and be able to win a race the next day.

1. I like airplane escs like hv110 or turnigy maybe. Is it worth having this esc even if I need mech. brakes?

2. best motor possible to handle everything I throw at it. I want flexibility to bash and then hit 80mph on 10s if I ever desired.

3. longer the better. LWB I feel suits brushless better.

I know everyone will have opinions but I am not looking to win ifmar... i'm looking for a truggy that can impress me beyond expectations.

Thanks

[Arct1k]

Personally tame your desires - your getting into expensive realms...

Hyper ST Pro or similar
MMM Combo on 5s

Be happy...

[lincpimp]

You will need a min of a 1521 to get 80mph on 10s in a truggy. Given a 60k rpm max, a 1500kv motor would be able to handle 10s, yet still be high enough kv to run on 6s lipo. I am guessing that the hv110 could be used for 6s with a 1521 1y motor with normal gearing for around 40mph. I doubt a turnigy will handle it.

You want the best motor, that will be a neu. Nothing else will handle the rpms and stay cool with tall gearing.

As for truggy choice, I have no idea. They are all very similar, at least the newest pro models. I would go with a jammin x2crt myself, or maybe the Hot bodies d8 truggy... I an not really fond of the losi 8t 2.0, but it seems to be popular. Most truggy are about the same wb...

And tire choice will be critical at 80mph.

[BrianG]

The phrase "champagne taste on a beer budget" immediately came to mind. 80mph truggy? Sure, but be prepared to spend more money (and then even more money in alimony/child support). 80mph is not cheap, and you certainly will not be able to get a truggy and the right components to be able to attain 80mph and be reliable from simply the sale of your existing setup (resale value in this hobby is not the best).

The HV110 is used primarily for HV use. But, it is running outside the spec and CC may not or will not warranty it when used this way. Aircraft ESCs are not designed the same way as car ESCs (helis are probably closer though).

If you could live with ~40mph top speed, Arct1k's advise is probably the best bet.

I am prepared to drop 1,500 easy. I just need one truck out so the other can come in without my wife barking too much.

Again, I am not building a truggy that I expect to run 80 mph everyday, just more like if I wanted to...I could. I have a ton of money in my Savage already (ok all my rigs)so it is nothing new to lose my ass on another toy lol.

here is my Savage:

[lincpimp]

Like I said, 1521 1y on 6s lipo with a hv110. Then you can go up on voltage up to 10s for more speed. I would suggest gearing down a bit if you plan to go up to 10s.

[lutach]

Why not go with a Jeti SPIN200. It works perfect with a pistol radio and it can go as high as 14S lipos. If you're interested I still have one for sale, just PM me for a price lol.

ok so 1521 1y and HV110. Lutach, I was talking to you on RCT about your ESCs/ MBX5T. What is a jetispin?

I need a pistix? for the HV110...... where can I buy one of those and how does that work? Does the Turnigy unit require a pistix?

Thanks for the help thus far, I appreciate it. Now.... what Truggy to choose is another thing. I like the Mugen MBX5-6, Losi 8ight 2.0 is suspect to me considering their quality drop off, and the D8T is honestly too ugly for me. I thought the 8ight 2.0 was ass ugly but that HB takes the cake.

I am really looking for the truggy with the most hardcore diffs/ drive train without NEEDING to do crazy diff swaps, or DIY mods that are a pain to replicate.

The newer truggies are lighter and I think that is important to brushless performance and wear, but if the weight drop = weak parts then I'll pass on that.

What do you guys prefer....tekno kits or RC monster stuff? (no bias please lol... I need honesty). THANKS!

[lincpimp]

OK, I will do my best to answer your questions.

First off the hv110 is about the smallest esc you can go with to have 6-10s usability. It is underrated quite a bit. You will require a pistix, I think offshoreelectrics.com has them. Any air esc will require a pistix...

I will have to guess that the xray truggy with the huddy steel parts will offer the best drivetrain for longevity. I have not owned one, but they are said by many to be the best.

As far as tekno to rcm goes, I have to say that I prefer the rcm parts for many reasons.

All of the tekno stuff uses their clutch adapter, which is not really a good idea. It will require more maintenance, and setup to operate properly. Plus it will wear front motor bearings faster. And I an not that fond of the motor mount design of the tekno.

Going with std hardened pinons and the slipperential from rcm will be your best bet. I also like the rcm motor mounts, simple and they allow chassis flex without disturbing the gear mesh. I think most of the rcm designs are superior to what else is out there... I have used other stuff and feel more confident with the rcm parts, plus they tend to fit better than most everything else I have played with.

Linc...thanks for the clarification. I see you have motors for sale... do you have that neu 1521 1y?

If anyone has the HV110 in mint cond or the 1521 1y shoot me a PM. I'll buy new if you have that too and need to unload stuff.

Linc, I hate to keep comming back with more Qs, but what discharge rating should the lipos be? I have flight and trakpower lipos but I'll need to buy some 5s packs. I only have 3s and 2s.

Brian G.... I thinkkkkk I saw you were selling an HV unit. Is this still available? Pm me if so. I need to figure out if I 100% want to go 10s/ air esc/ and mech brakes but I don't see why I shouldnt other then added weight of 2nd servo and extra complexity.

Lastly, if you guys have other set up suggestions, or ways I can get to my goal easier/better I'd be grateful to hear what you have to say. Please dont mention expense though lol. I joke about my wife but money is no concern here for the right gear and I'll save when I can to a degree when it makes sense. I do like to sell/buy alot in this hobby. I think I have more fun doing that and building then driving :D

[Joey]

Id say check out the Hot Bodies D8T... inexpensive, durable, good performance. Leaves you with money for upgrades...

[lutach]

Originally Posted by ArancioC5

ok so 1521 1y and HV110. Lutach, I was talking to you on RCT about your ESCs/ MBX5T. What is a jetispin?

The JETI SPIN200 is one of the most powerful ESC on the market. I still have my smoked HV110.

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7015

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by ArancioC5

...Brian G.... I thinkkkkk I saw you were selling an HV unit. Is this still available? Pm me if so. I need to figure out if I 100% want to go 10s/ air esc/ and mech brakes but I don't see why I shouldnt other then added weight of 2nd servo and extra complexity...

Yeah, I still have it. It originally popped one of the input capacitors, but CC fixed that and put brand new wires and heatshrink on it too. Hasn't been hooked up since. Comes with a Castle Link module if needed. And yes, it's still up for grabs. This ESC needs a Pistix adaptor to operate right on a pistol radio. Actually, you can get it to work without it, but far easier with it. Good news is that I have one. Bad news is that Mike (site owner) has it right now.

[jzemaxx]

Proven reciepe for me. XTM MMT ( nothing more then a LONG wheelbase truggy), 1521 1.5D 12S and turnigy HV100A ESC with mech brakes. With HPI phaltlines it went 80.4mph, never got hot never one problem other then tires. Hard to keep them together at that mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERY9_...eature=channel