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I did what? - 01.13.2008, 04:40 AM

As of 1/12/08, I am the owner of a Revo 3.3 NITRO, my first nitro in 3 years. $150 was way too tempting for an almost new one, being totally RTR and the bag containing all of the parts and manual was unopened. The truck has a bit of dirt on it, but no problem. The 3.3 is still tight (will lock up at the top), and I'm gonna break it in tomorrow. This truck only had a problem with the OptiDrive. Simple fix, and a great deal for me!

Now, you're probably thinking that a hardcore electric guy and nitro don't mix... Believe it or not, I'm actually pretty good with nitro and can tune pretty well. I've gotten LOADS of experience with it from working at the LHS for a year and a half, since there are lots of newbs out there who need help with nitro.

One problem I have run into is that I don't own any 7.2v NiMh stick packs to use on the EZ Start, let alone anything with a Tamiya plug (it's surprising that Traxxas isn't using their new connector on it). The solution: solder a Deans connector onto the EZ Start circuit board, and strap in a 2s 6000mah Lipo... I think that should work .

More on this truck tomorrow after I get it running.


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01.13.2008, 12:36 PM

I do the same thing with the ez start when I have to tune a traxxas nitro vehicle. I just use a tamiya to deans adapter and my 2s 6000 lipo. And a zip tie to hold it all together. When people see how well it spins the engine over they ask where the battery came from. I quick explancation of the 250 dollar cost between the battery and charger usually raises some eybrows!
   
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01.13.2008, 06:07 PM

Yeah, well the Lipo-powered EZ Start works! Break-in is done, and I burned an extra tank or two on top of that. I tuned it for what I think is optimal performance (maximum power without getting too hot, and won't die), and the performance certainly isn't what I'm used to. It doesn't wheelie... It's loud... There's tuning... It left oil all over my driveway and the sidewalk... At least I know why electric is better.


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01.13.2008, 06:21 PM

If it doesn't wheelie, somethings not right...It should wheelie like crazy with the 3.3. I dunno though, I've heard the 3.3's don't really come alive will around a 1/2-3/4 of a gallon.
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01.13.2008, 06:28 PM

I talked with a buddy of mine who is like a nitro king around here. In his experience with the 3.3 (standard 3.3 long chassis, of course), the Revo doesn't wheelie but takes off really hard. The suspension in the rear is pretty soft, though, and needs preload added to keep the back from almost dragging.


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01.13.2008, 06:41 PM

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I talked with a buddy of mine who is like a nitro king around here. In his experience with the 3.3 (standard 3.3 long chassis, of course), the Revo doesn't wheelie but takes off really hard. The suspension in the rear is pretty soft, though, and needs preload added to keep the back from almost dragging.
My eperience with the 3.3 as well. The one i have seen that would wheelie, I temped them and were over 300* and lean bogging on top. I think the 3.3 is perfect for racing, right powerband and power for most situations without overpowering the track.

Welcome to the "One of each club" I to have a Nitro and electric in both revo and T/Emaxx


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People here hate Nitro, I love it. I start it, run it about 50 ft from me and it dies, I go after it. Perfect exercise
   
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01.13.2008, 06:51 PM

Sounds cool, atleast you can maybe turn some profit if you decide to sell it? great deal
   
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Sounds cool, atleast you can maybe turn some profit if you decide to sell it? great deal
I could, but I told my boss I wouldn't (he allowed for me to get such a good deal). Down the line when the nitro stuff is done I can do something else with this truck.


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01.13.2008, 08:16 PM

nitro isn't that bad. It's a pain in the arse to get working and keep working and find some where to drive that you aren't going to piss anyone off but once you get all that right it is fun. It took me a while to get used to the noise and the noise still sucks when it's not working perfectly but when it is tuned spot on it sounds fantastic. I still prefer electric though. I am sick of constantly replacing parts on my nitro motors to keep them running. At least electric motors only require bearings every now and then and they tend to last longer.

I want to have both electric and nitro so I can pick and choose the best one for the occasion. It will still be nice when I go bashing for the day to pull out the nitro and just run it all day with out having to keep charging batteries. I realised something though on the weekend. My nitro savage has more batteries then my electric one will.


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01.13.2008, 09:06 PM

Nitro is good for back to back running, but still a pain to tune, especially the small block motors. I will most likely buy the baja ss kit, as it is gas powered, and that offers the best of both worlds, in respect of ease of use and lack of batery charging. I know that it will be noisy, but I have large areas close where nobody is bothered by the noise. I have seen the same thing with the 3.3, just not much torque. Personally nitro is boring for me, slow acceleration and just a sticky mess.
   
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01.13.2008, 09:10 PM

air compressor, simple green and alchohol make short work of cleaning. With a good charger and some A123s you could do back to back electric running I suppose.


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01.13.2008, 09:14 PM

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air compressor, simple green and alchohol make short work of cleaning. With a good charger and some A123s you could do back to back electric running I suppose.

This is true, but a thousand dollar gas vehicle like the baja is easy to buy (cheaper than a full blown electric) and just more fun in a large area. Not sure if you have seen one in person, but they are quite impressive.
   
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01.13.2008, 10:38 PM

I haven't seen one in action but I want too. I want to know if they are faster then a decent nitro savage. They definitely don't look quicker then a savage in videos but that is always deceiving with different scales. They also look like they land a bit hard to me. I saw some pics of some bajas getting huge air at one of the monster jams somewhere.


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01.13.2008, 11:19 PM

I was watching a baja 5b RTR run in the sand dunes near me, and it was just killing it out there. Butter smooth suspension and plenty of top speed for normal bashing. This was about a year ago if not more. Since then I have been dreaming about getting one.... And no tuning required, and all you need to dirtbike gas (car gas with some oil) and you're good to go.


   
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air compressor, simple green and alchohol make short work of cleaning. With a good charger and some A123s you could do back to back electric running I suppose.
only thing with the a123 and good charger is that if you go out to the desert you need a generator or something to power the charger.

with a nitro truck you just need gas.
   
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