How much are you willing to pay for New Quark Monster ESC if they make one.

[shawn197]

I visited Quark to get my ESC and UBEC repaired today.
They looked a little tired, I asked them some questions about ESCs.
My first question was if they saw Mamba Monster Maxx, and if did, what they thought of it. But they seemed not to be too interested in it. But the answer was yes. And my last question to them was if they are thinking about making a Super ultra HV ESC for electric monster truck. The answer was they haven't thought of it yet, but they knew monster trucks are a big thing in the USA. And they said they will seriously think about it if customers want it. So I told them that since sky-technology is a company that sells a lot overseas, they should be aware of the fact that Mamba Monster Maxx is coming out next month, and they will lose a lot of customers. So I told the guy that Quark had better come out with a super HV monter ESC that is more reliable and capable and as cheap as Mamba to compete in the US and the world.
Anyway, the service was great. The customer service person that I talked to was very kind. I want to help them out by gathering some information. So please write your opinion. And please some functions and technologies that you want to see in it.

So how much are you willing to pay for a Quark ESC that exceeds MGM and MMM's capabilities?

[Happywing]

Sounds like there's not much of a chance that they'll make an HV ESC. And if they're not really interested, how good could it be. Their stuff is over-hyped and over-priced.

[BrianG]

The Quarks' pricing is a bit inflated for what you get IMO. They do have butter smooth controllers though and they run pretty much any type of motor. I also like the way the startup algorithm works vs the MM. But for more than twice the price as a MM, I dunno...

[sikeston34m]

Originally Posted by BrianG

The Quarks' pricing is a bit inflated for what you get IMO. They do have butter smooth controllers though and they run pretty much any type of motor. I also like the way the startup algorithm works vs the MM. But for more than twice the price as a MM, I dunno...

Brian, have you tried the NEW firmware for the Mamba Max yet?

It's really a different controller now IMO.

[BL_RV0]

id pay $300-$350.... i personally love quarks. had a 65 in my rustler on 3s and a 80 in a oooold emaxx on 5s. it worked great, vitrually no heat issues in the maxx and was flat out cold in the rustler. motors were a 8s in the rustler and a 10xl in the emaxx.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by sikeston34m

Brian, have you tried the NEW firmware for the Mamba Max yet?

It's really a different controller now IMO.

Not yet. I know they made changes for the Neu motors, but wouldn't think they would change the starting algorithm... I'll have to check it out.

[legobrains]

For a quark ESC only, that is comparable to the MMM, I would pay $220-$260

Because the MMM is going to be around $300 for the ESC and Motor.

[sikeston34m]

Originally Posted by BrianG

Not yet. I know they made changes for the Neu motors, but wouldn't think they would change the starting algorithm... I'll have to check it out.

I believe they have changed the starting algorithm. I tried it before with a 12 pole outrunner setup. All it wanted to do was cog, and act confused on directional control, before it thermally shut down.

Now I'm running my E maxx using an AXI 2926/8 12 turn outrunner. I do have a fan on the MM and a CC BEC being fed by 4S Lipo, 5000mah 20C.

I can't make it thermal, the ESC runs cool. I can't MAKE it cog either. It has great low speed driveability. Even on the very first step of the throttle at the controller.

I pulled a Monster Pro 125 amp to give this a try. I think I'll just leave the MM in there.

It is every bit as smooth now, perhaps even a little bit better.

If you have one laying around, try it and see.

[BrianG]

I treat all firmware updates just like PC BIOS updates: Unless there is an added feature I want or fixes something I specifically have an issue with, I don't generally change.

None of my MM's were having issues, so I never thought to change it. I guess I now have an excuse to do so.

[crazyjr]

Hey BrianG, the firmware is for real. even with stock castle motors you can see and feel a difference. Like Sike said, its like another esc altogether

sorry about castle comment on a Quark thread, but backing up sike.

On the topic of a SHV quark, that'd be intresting. But my experience, is 5s is too much for racing. Bashing however, I'd get one

On the topic of a SHV quark, that'd be intresting. But my experience, is 5s is too much for racing. Bashing however, I'd get one

Isn't that 100% dependent on motor KV ? If the motor KV is low enough to get into a good motor RPM range with 5s or 6s, then you are MUCH more efficient than similar speeds on a 4s setup.

I'm not sure If i'd be interested in an HV quark or not. My experience with the 125b's has been less than favorable. My MM is just about as nice a performer, at 1/2 the size, and 1/2 the cost. I love my smaller quarks, but the 125b is just a disappointment to me. I suppose you guys could try it out first, and if it beats out the MGM and MMM then I might give it a shot, lol.


J.

[jhautz]

I think that Quark has potential to make a very nice esc. The 125B just missed the mark with the heat issues due to an improper case design. Other than that the issues with it were minor IMO and it was an all around good performing esc. As a matter of fact, if the updated version of their escs are as good as the 125B, but with the heat problem addressed I would be very happy to buy it for similar prices as I paid for my 125Bs.

I have the MM with updated software and yes it is a WORLD of difference from the old MM software, but I still dont think its as smooth and controlable as the Quarks. Both on the thottle control and the braking I think my quark is still superior to my MM.

Now to this point I havent found a need to a Super HV ESC, but I can see it comming. I think if anyone could make one that performed fairly well for less than $300 and supported it it would be a good seller.

[crazyjr]

Originally Posted by 83gt

Isn't that 100% dependent on motor KV ? If the motor KV is low enough to get into a good motor RPM range with 5s or 6s, then you are MUCH more efficient than similar speeds on a 4s setup.

I'm not sure If i'd be interested in an HV quark or not. My experience with the 125b's has been less than favorable. My MM is just about as nice a performer, at 1/2 the size, and 1/2 the cost. I love my smaller quarks, but the 125b is just a disappointment to me. I suppose you guys could try it out first, and if it beats out the MGM and MMM then I might give it a shot, lol.


J.

That's true, but My 1700kv 1515/2.5 blows the tires off on my track on 5s. I know KV determines speed, it also determines torque and power. The higher the overall power and efficiency, the motor likely there will be at least traction problems, broken parts at most

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by crazyjr

That's true, but My 1700kv 1515/2.5 blows the tires off on my track on 5s. I know KV determines speed, it also determines torque and power. The higher the overall power and efficiency, the motor likely there will be at least traction problems, broken parts at most

I don't think the 1515 2.5D on 5s is too much for the track. With the gearing I usually use (46/12) it has less top end than almost all the other 4s truggies I race against. Even when I did some practice laps on 6s with it and 46/13 gearing it was very fast, but still controllable. And how much you spin the wheels just depends on how you drive.

[GriffinRU]

I will by Quark, just because it is different for around half the price of 125B, because IC's now days are getting cheaper and they already good for CE and RoHS.

As for design flaws, I can pass them couple thoughts if they contact. But in general I am not happy with pcb layout they have, from heat transfer stand point. Enclosure (case) can be improved but pcb is the culprit. Also, make it water proof, so simple with silicon wires...