Upgraded Stampede VXL

[JerryF504]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

I may have had a bad example. The velineon seems to be a bit power hungry on 3s. I did not get that kind of speed out of my rustler. I will say that the feigao/mm setup had about the same power, but seemed to be more effecient. I would like to pit a vxl pede to the aveox powered one to see how it compares.

Yeah, you must have gotten a lemon because I got my vxl to run 65.4 mph on a Maxamps 5000mah 3s with the optional pinion that comes with it (I think it's 28 teeth) and it never got over about 150-160 degrees. The run times were about 40 mins to. It runs so long I only hit the lvc two or three times since I got it.

Maybe your battery had something to do with it because mine came with a 6 cell IB 3600 pack and it got way hot on the esc and motor with that battery. I think it actually thermaled with that battery if I remember correctly and that was actually with the smaller stock pinion.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by JerryF504

Yeah, you must have gotten a lemon because I got my vxl to run 65.4 mph on a Maxamps 5000mah 3s with the optional pinion that comes with it (I think it's 28 teeth) and it never got over about 150-160 degrees. The run times were about 40 mins to. It runs so long I only hit the lvc two or three times since I got it.

Maybe your battery had something to do with it because mine came with a 6 cell IB 3600 pack and it got way hot on the esc and motor with that battery. I think it actually thermaled with that battery if I remember correctly and that was actually with the smaller stock pinion.

Hey Jerry, did you happen to buy that rustler from a crazy guy at a body shop in Slidell? That was me, I am that crazy guy! Glad that you have had more luck than I did.

All I can think is that the velineon system is very power hungry, and does not like weak batteries. I was using a maxamps pack, 3s 4000, and we all know how well maxamps packs do with high power stuff (makes farty noise with mouth). It worked fine in my pede with the mm and the 12s feigao. And the performance was better with the mm/feigao combo. All I can think is that I may have found the sweat spot with that setup. I did not test the velineon that much, as I really did not care for it, and figured that it would sell better before I thrashed for testing purposes. I have a vxl pede now, but it has a sidewinder/aveox combo.

[JerryF504]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Hey Jerry, did you happen to buy that rustler from a crazy guy at a body shop in Slidell? That was me, I am that crazy guy! Glad that you have had more luck than I did.

Yep, that's the nut.

Originally Posted by lincpimp

All I can think is that the velineon system is very power hungry, and does not like weak batteries. I was using a maxamps pack, 3s 4000, and we all know how well maxamps packs do with high power stuff (makes farty noise with mouth). It worked fine in my pede with the mm and the 12s feigao. And the performance was better with the mm/feigao combo. All I can think is that I may have found the sweat spot with that setup. I did not test the velineon that much, as I really did not care for it, and figured that it would sell better before I thrashed for testing purposes. I have a vxl pede now, but it has a sidewinder/aveox combo.

I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. I prefer the VXL system for the most part because I still use the stock radios (for now anyway) and I don't get very good range at all from my MM RCs. As far as all the settings on the MM most of the time when I end up playing with them I end up mimicking the VXL. The only way you can really tell which ESC is in the RC is listen for the beep every 20 seconds or see if it goes more than 2 house lengths without going out of range.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by JerryF504

Yep, that's the nut.



I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. I prefer the VXL system for the most part because I still use the stock radios (for now anyway) and I don't get very good range at all from my MM RCs. As far as all the settings on the MM most of the time when I end up playing with them I end up mimicking the VXL. The only way you can really tell which ESC is in the RC is listen for the beep every 20 seconds or see if it goes more than 2 house lengths without going out of range.

To each his own, glad that you are enjoying it!

Originally Posted by JerryF504

Yep, that's the nut.



I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. I prefer the VXL system for the most part because I still use the stock radios (for now anyway) and I don't get very good range at all from my MM RCs. As far as all the settings on the MM most of the time when I end up playing with them I end up mimicking the VXL. The only way you can really tell which ESC is in the RC is listen for the beep every 20 seconds or see if it goes more than 2 house lengths without going out of range.

I couldnt wait to get rid of the VXL system off of my Rustler...much happier with the MM/Feigao

[JerryF504]

Originally Posted by azjc

I couldnt wait to get rid of the VXL system off of my Rustler...much happier with the MM/Feigao

I'm glad you found something that works for you. It just got a little old for me trying to run a car that does over 60 mph in an area that is so small. Like lincpimp said "to each his own."

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by JerryF504

I'm glad you found something that works for you. It just got a little old for me trying to run a car that does over 60 mph in an area that is so small. Like lincpimp said "to each his own."

Very true Jerry. I have a variety of areas to play in, so each vehicle has a different purpose. Low 40mph speeds seem to be the best for my area, which is grassy and has some natural ditches and other natural jumps. Not too many trees, and the grass is low enough that I can run a lower vehicle like a buggy. I also have the city baseball field next door, so that is fun when we have a few vehicles out. Or sometimes I fly on that field, but I do not have a plane at the moment!

Originally Posted by JerryF504

I'm glad you found something that works for you. It just got a little old for me trying to run a car that does over 60 mph in an area that is so small. Like lincpimp said "to each his own."

its not so much wanting to drive fast, but wanting to upgrade to better components, the first time I took out the Rustler VXL one of the leads becames disconnected from the ESC and as I was troubleshooting to what the problem was, I soon discovered what I was dealing with....Traxxas products are good to get your feet wet with, that is there target audience.

[JerryF504]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Very true Jerry. I have a variety of areas to play in, so each vehicle has a different purpose. Low 40mph speeds seem to be the best for my area, which is grassy and has some natural ditches and other natural jumps. Not too many trees, and the grass is low enough that I can run a lower vehicle like a buggy. I also have the city baseball field next door, so that is fun when we have a few vehicles out. Or sometimes I fly on that field, but I do not have a plane at the moment!

Do you ever fly helicopters? I just recently got a t-rex but I have never really flown it. I hovered a couple of time in front of my house but was scared I was going to either loose it or hit my neighbors car.

[JerryF504]

Originally Posted by azjc

its not so much wanting to drive fast, but wanting to upgrade to better components, the first time I took out the Rustler VXL one of the leads becames disconnected from the ESC and as I was troubleshooting to what the problem was, I soon discovered what I was dealing with....Traxxas products are good to get your feet wet with, that is there target audience.

Yeah. that's exactly what I'm talking about. To you the MM is better to me the VXL is better (I think the more simple something is the better). I read about a few people problems with the leads on the VXL, but luckily none of mine have had a problem at all.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by JerryF504

Do you ever fly helicopters? I just recently got a t-rex but I have never really flown it. I hovered a couple of time in front of my house but was scared I was going to either loose it or hit my neighbors car.

I can fly a heli, most of my time is on a blade cx2. Do you have a flight sim? I learned on a sim and it really helps. Also the cx2 is a great heli to learn on. For 200 bucks it is a steal, and I would recommend it to the new piolt! I have flown a trex 450 for a short time. I had a buddy who had a few helis and he like the align 600 nitro the best.

[Superbasher]

Originally Posted by azjc

its not so much wanting to drive fast, but wanting to upgrade to better components, the first time I took out the Rustler VXL one of the leads becames disconnected from the ESC and as I was troubleshooting to what the problem was, I soon discovered what I was dealing with....Traxxas products are good to get your feet wet with, that is there target audience.

I've had the same problem. I don't think it is a fault with the ESC, but more of a fault of where they put it, as the wires stick up further than the shock tower, meaning that if you land a jump upside down they break, which mine did. I managed to fix it by soldering the connector back on the PCB, but i'm on the hunt for a cheap MM ESC.

the position of the wires always made me drive with a body on, i was scared to hurt em

Originally Posted by Superbasher

I've had the same problem. I don't think it is a fault with the ESC, but more of a fault of where they put it, as the wires stick up further than the shock tower, meaning that if you land a jump upside down they break, which mine did. I managed to fix it by soldering the connector back on the PCB, but i'm on the hunt for a cheap MM ESC.

I agree with you that the location of the ESC is bad, I have since located my MM and BEC on the lower chassis opposite of the RX using velco to secure

[Superbasher]

Originally Posted by azjc

I agree with you that the location of the ESC is bad, I have since located my MM and BEC on the lower chassis opposite of the RX using velco to secure

I tried that with the VXL ESC, but the lead is too short to feed it over to the receiver, so i've mounted in the original position, but sideways (so the bottom of the ESC rests against the shock tower) so it isn't in the firing line now.