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[Mister-T]

It already does up to 6S.
you need to remove internal BEC, use an external one. And put a 2200 uF / 25 Volts / Low ESR capacitor

[pb4ugo]

Originally Posted by Mister-T

It already does up to 6S.
you need to remove internal BEC, use an external one. And put a 2200 uF / 25 Volts / Low ESR capacitor

Do you have experience with 6s on it? I just ordered one last week, the highest I've heard of is 5s. It would be great if I could run 6s also.

Don't know about the specs.... but based on my conversations with the PREZ of Tekin, I know he is determined not to have a disasterous debut like the Monster Max. They are testing in a lot of different vehicles, Pushing them to extreme limits to assure they perform the way we expect them to. They have made it very well known they are testing in race and bashing conditions in the vehicles we want to use them in to assure the durability necessary to support this great new class of vehicles.

[Mister-T]

Castle did test the Monster max too... But they can't prevent a batch of microchip going bad after XX minutes. They manufacture the ESC but they are not inside :P

[Sower]

Originally Posted by Mister-T

Castle did test the Monster max too... But they can't prevent a batch of microchip going bad after XX minutes. They manufacture the ESC but they are not inside :P

Good point - the situation with the MMM had nothing to do with a lack of in house testing. It was strictly a batch of bad parts from a supplier and not on every unit. Tough deal for CC but it happens to the best of them and could happen to Tekin too really. I hope it won't, but it sure could.

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

Im surprised noone has gotten a photo of this ESC since of all the testing that has been done

[lutach]

I thought you guys would have my back on this . I just want to take it for a test drive .

[Happywing]

Originally Posted by Sower

Good point - the situation with the MMM had nothing to do with a lack of in house testing. It was strictly a batch of bad parts from a supplier and not on every unit. Tough deal for CC but it happens to the best of them and could happen to Tekin too really. I hope it won't, but it sure could.

The key words here is "house testing." CC claims they did plenty of house testing. Tekin is testing on the track...big difference. A debacle of CC/MMM proportions will not happen with the new Tekin controller. Their testing has been much more thorough. They also got a scare from the abysmal failure of the MMM.

[Sower]

Originally Posted by Happywing

The key words here is "house testing." CC claims they did plenty of house testing. Tekin is testing on the track...big difference. A debacle of CC/MMM proportions will not happen with the new Tekin controller. Their testing has been much more thorough. They also got a scare from the abysmal failure of the MMM.

That's all well and good, but what happened at CC could happen to Tekin and has nothing to do with testing. The fact is that a certain number of controllers got a bad part. The rest didn't. Would you expect them to test all the controllers after production for 2+ hours of race conditions to make sure they're ok? The MMM I have has gone through several hours of racing and performed flawlessly.

Bottom line is that manufacturers rely on the parts of their suppliers. That has nothing to do with previous testing.

Originally Posted by Mister-T

Castle did test the Monster max too... But they can't prevent a batch of microchip going bad after XX minutes. They manufacture the ESC but they are not inside :P

I am sorry...but the failures that racers are seeing show that not enough testing was done within the parameters that the ESC was going to see in the real world.
I don't know of one fan that has not failed or broken
upon impact from the jumps with the 1/8th scale buggies and truggies, the case compresses and damages wires from the fan and shorts the whole ESC out. There is not enough clearance between the bottom of the case and the plug of the fan. It has been breaking off. The fan blades catch on the housing of the fan and break off. Not to mention the electronic failures that have frustrated owners to the point that I have had some tell me they don't even want to open theirs and put it in their vehicle.
Some, like happywing did not even get to put his vehicle on the track. It toasted when he was setting it up in his basement.
I would be curious to know the actual failure numbers of the intial release.

[lutach]

The real reason for having other people test the controller is basically motors choices. Not everyone runs a Neu 1512 or 1515. Some run Mega, Plettenberg, Lehner, Hacker, Feigaos Type L/XL and larger 1521/1527 Neus. A company can say their controller can handle any motor, but how can they back that up. Are they just going by the AMP rating on the controller? Racers only race for a few minutes, while some one who is in the hobby just to have fun will probably bash with some friends for hours. Having team drivers test stuff out is good, but it would be good to have somebody that owns various motors do some test as well.

[Sower]

Originally Posted by DJ1978

I am sorry...but the failures that racers are seeing show that not enough testing was done within the parameters that the ESC was going to see in the real world.
I don't know of one fan that has not failed or broken
upon impact from the jumps with the 1/8th scale buggies and truggies, the case compresses and damages wires from the fan and shorts the whole ESC out. There is not enough clearance between the bottom of the case and the plug of the fan. It has been breaking off. The fan blades catch on the housing of the fan and break off. Not to mention the electronic failures that have frustrated owners to the point that I have had some tell me they don't even want to open theirs and put it in their vehicle.
Some, like happywing did not even get to put his vehicle on the track. It toasted when he was setting it up in his basement.
I would be curious to know the actual failure numbers of the intial release.

Well the first thing I would like to mention is that my MMM works perfectly and has for several hours. This last weekend I ran three 5 minute qualifiers and then the 15 minute main with no problems at all. Fan works, temps under 120, blah, blah, blah. It was incredible! Remember, when things work great you don't hear about them as much as when there's a problem.

The other thing I would say is to be careful about pointing fingers at CC unless you have first hand knowledge of what they do or don't do in their testing. Your judgement can be damaging to their reputation and should be given careful scrutiny. CC has proven they are a great company and puts out great products with great service.

[Sower]

Originally Posted by lutach

The real reason for having other people test the controller is basically motors choices. Not everyone runs a Neu 1512 or 1515. Some run Mega, Plettenberg, Lehner, Hacker, Feigaos Type L/XL and larger 1521/1527 Neus. A company can say their controller can handle any motor, but how can they back that up. Are they just going by the AMP rating on the controller? Racers only race for a few minutes, while some one who is in the hobby just to have fun will probably bash with some friends for hours. Having team drivers test stuff out is good, but it would be good to have somebody that owns various motors do some test as well.

Good point - do we know for sure they didn't test on those other motors?

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Sower

Good point - do we know for sure they didn't test on those other motors?

They do say things like that in rctech . All I here them saying is how great it is with a 1512 or a 1515, but mostly 1512 motors.

Originally Posted by Sower

Well the first thing I would like to mention is that my MMM works perfectly and has for several hours. This last weekend I ran three 5 minute qualifiers and then the 15 minute main with no problems at all. Fan works, temps under 120, blah, blah, blah. It was incredible! Remember, when things work great you don't hear about them as much as when there's a problem.

The other thing I would say is to be careful about pointing fingers at CC unless you have first hand knowledge of what they do or don't do in their testing. Your judgement can be damaging to their reputation and should be given careful scrutiny. CC has proven they are a great company and puts out great products with great service.

You are right. I know CC is a great company with excellent 1/10th and mini products and they have
excellent customer service.
If you have one that is running.. that is great.. LXMUFF has one that is running too.. but he as worked to protect all the areas that have failed on others.
I don't have first hand knowledge of their testing system... but let's be honest... if you were looking for a Monster ESC.. based on the posts you read and experience of friends and post of CC reps themselves... would you choose one right now?

I don't want to get in spitting match. In my opinion, the initial launch of parts had a lot of flaws.

I am sure they are working hard to fix them as fast as they can.

I am looking forward to seeing the next generation..

I am also looking forward to the TEKIN ESC so we have more excellent choices