RC-Monster Forums  

Go Back   RC-Monster Forums > Questions and Answers > General Questions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Neu Rotor Hard to Turn
Old
  (#1)
Shark413
RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
 
Shark413's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 468
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Neu Rotor Hard to Turn - 10.10.2008, 10:42 PM

Quick question for the brushless motor wizards. I have a Tekno Neu motor and the rotor turns over very easily. I have an older Neu and the rotor is much harder to turn by hand. I heard that the Tekno Neu's had been designed like that to lessen clogging or something like that. My question is what makes the Original Neu so hard to turn over? I mean sure it has a strong neodymium magnet but the motor can is made out of alluminum and I believe the coils are made out of copper which are both non-Ferrous Metal (non-magnetic). So what is the magnet acting on to cause the rotor to be so stiff? Is there a steel sleeve holding the coils or what? Just curious, both motors work great.


Losi 2.0 8ight-E / Losi 2.0 8ight-E/T / jammin SCTRC10 / Slash 4x4 PE

Last edited by Shark413; 10.10.2008 at 10:47 PM.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#2)
BrianG
RC-Monster Admin
 
BrianG's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 14,609
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Des Moines, IA
10.10.2008, 10:53 PM

[speculation]

The older Neus use a more focused slotted stator setup, which gives you those sharply defined "detents". The newer ones have a wider focal point, which smooths out the detents. Apparently, some ESCs find this easier to deal with.

[/speculation]
  Send a message via Yahoo to BrianG Send a message via MSN to BrianG  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
snellemin
2 KiloWatt RACER
 
snellemin's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,496
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Houston
10.10.2008, 11:38 PM

My x11 4.5 and 3.5 LRP motors have these sharp detents as well, whereas my hackers have none. The mamba esc has a hard time starting up the x11's up smoothly.


6 KiloWatt A123 Racer
GTP-Pletty Big Maxximum+RX8. GTP-C50-6L Hacker+RX8. CRT.5-Pro4+ZTW esc.
24s2p EVG SX 49.6mph Ebike.
18s4p Raptor 60mph Ebike. 11.5KW
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
Unsullied_Spy
RC-Monster Titanium
 
Unsullied_Spy's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 1,609
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bozeman, Montana
10.11.2008, 12:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by snellemin View Post
My x11 4.5 and 3.5 LRP motors have these sharp detents as well, whereas my hackers have none. The mamba esc has a hard time starting up the x11's up smoothly.
That's strange, my MM ESC was acting up (sent it back) but it had an easier time with my Medusa, which has this chunkiness to it, than it did my Hacker which is much smoother.
  Send a message via AIM to Unsullied_Spy Send a message via MSN to Unsullied_Spy  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#5)
What's_nitro?
Soldermaster Extraordinaire
 
What's_nitro?'s Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 4,529
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Plymouth, MA, USA
10.11.2008, 12:01 AM

There was a thread on this a while back. I think it dealt with the CC Neu's. Same difference, though. The "Neu Neu's" use a regular slotted design where the slots are parallel to the poles of the rotor. The "CC Neu's" or "Tekno Neu's" either have no slots (like LMT/Hacker), or use a different geometry (helix?) for the slots to reduce the cogging effect.

How come nobody has taken one of these new Neu's apart yet so we can have a solid answer to this burning question?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
Unsullied_Spy
RC-Monster Titanium
 
Unsullied_Spy's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 1,609
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bozeman, Montana
10.11.2008, 12:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by What's_nitro? View Post
How come nobody has taken one of these new Neu's apart yet so we can have a solid answer to this burning question?
I have a Tekno Neu with smoked windings I need to call Neu when I get back from CO to see what it will cost to fix. If it costs too much I'll pull it apart and take plenty of pics.
  Send a message via AIM to Unsullied_Spy Send a message via MSN to Unsullied_Spy  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
What's_nitro?
Soldermaster Extraordinaire
 
What's_nitro?'s Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 4,529
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Plymouth, MA, USA
10.11.2008, 10:52 PM

Cool! I mean... I hope they can fix it!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8)
lincpimp
Check out my huge box!
 
lincpimp's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 11,935
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Slidell, LA
10.12.2008, 12:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy View Post
I have a Tekno Neu with smoked windings I need to call Neu when I get back from CO to see what it will cost to fix. If it costs too much I'll pull it apart and take plenty of pics.
How old is it? Mine was under a year old, and neu fixed it for nothing, and returned shipped it to me too. All I paid for was shipping to them... It was a real neu, and the magnet came loose. Hope they will fix yours...
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9)
Unsullied_Spy
RC-Monster Titanium
 
Unsullied_Spy's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 1,609
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bozeman, Montana
10.12.2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lincpimp View Post
How old is it? Mine was under a year old, and neu fixed it for nothing, and returned shipped it to me too. All I paid for was shipping to them... It was a real neu, and the magnet came loose. Hope they will fix yours...
I bought mine back in April/May sometime. I would be really happy if they would fix it under warranty, but since the damage was my fault I wouldn't be upset if I had to pay to have it fixed.
  Send a message via AIM to Unsullied_Spy Send a message via MSN to Unsullied_Spy  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump







Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com