savage dual motor conversion

[mack]

Hi guys,

I'm new here and currently have a FG monster beetle. The problem is is that it makes to much noise, when I want to ride in the neighbourhood. So I am thinking about rebuilding my Savage into a e-savage. (My picco p3 died on me...)

What do you guys think of this setup?

http://home.comcast.net/~milemarkers...Conversion.htm

Or do I need to get a bl setup?

[Dafni]

Welcome to the Forum!
Another dutch E-Savy boy ;) I'm sure you'll meet Serum here, our Savage guru.

I would go for a BL setup. No need for dual BL, though. One motor will do.
A BL will give you more fun than dual brushies, I'm sure. And a suitable combo should last a lifetime.

DAF

[coolhandcountry]

welcome to the forum mack.
I agree with dafni. A single brushless motor will have more power and longer run time than the dual brushed. The right choice can have more than a wrong dual brushless.

[nbcaznmaster]

single bl all the way. where's seruM??/ SERUM!!!! help this kid out! oH yeah, welcome to the forums!

[Sylvester]

Welcome to the forums mack! If you have any savage problems, ask the savage guru, Serum. ;)

[mack]

Thanks guys for your reactions.

I already did get in contact with Serum and he gave me some good tips. I'm still searching the internet looking for a complete kit, because I am not that good with electrics. This will be my first e car.

If you look at the specs below, the dual motor has more power theoreticaly. And according to the information on the site you don't have to lock your second gear. Don't know if this makes a difference or if that's a big problem, since I have no experience with this type of cars what so ever.

here are som specs.

Voltage Test Voltage Power Truck Weight Installed Power-to-Weight Ratio Internet Asking Price

Novak HV-Maxx Brushless System 14.4 - 16.8V 14.4V 375 Watts 8.3 lbs 45.2 watts/lb $279.99

Kershaw Designs Dual 820-Sized DeWalt Motor Conversion 14.4 - 16.8V 14.4V 594 Watts 9.9 lbs 60.0 watts/lb $199.99

[nbcaznmaster]

lol, no hv-maxx!! get BK ELECTRONICS 9920 with a Fiegao 9L or Feigao 7XL!! its the same privce, but u get TONS MORE POWER and theres more interchangable motors for if u want more toque, speed and stuff like that. unless ur rock climbing or somthing.

[coolhandcountry]

7xl 18cells for 22,5 volts1800 watts of power on 12 lbs truck. 150watts per lb at $295

[nbcaznmaster]

much better deal then hv!!

[Serum]

Hi Mack!

Great to see you did some posting here!

Stay away from the brushed motors, 1 7XL will take those two motors with two fingers in his nose.. ;) and with a heavy savage, i would not advise you to get a HVmaxx either.

Mike can have you the stuff shipped directly from BK, that would make it much easier.

Take my advise on this;

get a 8XL (you can grow up to 20 cells with this bad boy) and a 9920 or a 12020 (warrior) the 9920 is good to go.

about the conversion kit;

in Germany i know that they sell a kit for 89 euro, it includes the following items;

-special driveshaft, locks in 1st speed and ables you to brake on the motor
-2 battery trays
-1 motorplate
-1 pinion (for a 5mm shaft)

All and all not a bad investment if you ask me.

[nbcaznmaster]

SAVAGE GOD SERUM HAS SPOKEN!!! Let his words be law!

[Serum]

And that's the way Ncabz gets his 500+ posts..

:p

[mack]

Serum whit that setup whil it hit the 55mph or more:)
And do (wheelie;s ???)
I want boht speed and bashing in the park

Is this the conversion kit
http://www.monsters-paradise-shop.de...e6cf63b9b1a5ed

I also have been reading on this site about,
Lipo batts is this better?? i am asking because,
i dont own any thing yet. (exept the savage lol)
So that when i am building my E-savage i do it good and buy the good stuff.

And i wanna thank all off you for talking my out off the, Dual brushies

Affter i seen some bl savage vid's i am a believer


:L:

[Serum]

Get a 9XL on 20 cells, it's a blast. If you have got deep pockets and you are willing to use the money, go lipo. It takes quite a lipo setup to get you the power needed. If you are in the race for a new charger (which i presume) you need to go for a good one. In germany, they are selling the Graupner ultra duo 30, able to charge up to 30 cells and 10S lipo.

Lipo's would take about a 6S setup to push your savage with 55mph+ around. And my advise is that you need about 3 sets of batteries to keep him going.. If this is your first start, please act normal, and start with a 16 or 18 cell setup. Having a fast monstertruck is one. Keeping it going straight, takes some time and a few crashes. Trust me, you don't want it to do wheelies at 40-45 mph. it might look cool, but i can guarantee you that that was probably the last you did see your savage do in one piece.. ;)

Start with something normal, the 9XL is a good motor though, and with 16 cells its a blast allready. With 18 it is pretty insane, and with 20 you will have the effect as i explained earlier.. :p

Like i said, i would take a 16 cell setup to start with. It is pretty mad allready, you need to learn how to tame a brushless beast first.. Thrust me on that one..

[coolhandcountry]

If you want all this much power and such. May I suggest a lehner 2240 or 2250. It will push your savage to 55+ mph and do wheelies on command. Promod has been 70mph with a 2240. It just takes more money.