EP Savage X build

[Joey]

Ok, Im very new to conversion builds and Ive been thinking about doing a savage x conversion of some sorts. I recently did a little ebay "research" to scope out prices.
All I can say is I am THOROUGHLY SCHOCKED at how inexpensive it is to build your own GP savage roller. Ive tallied up some parts for
you and Ill show what Ive found so far. These are all from the "chop shop" guys on ebay.

Suspension arms: -------------------------Bought for $13 shipped.

Bulkheads + Diffs + Shock Towers: -----Bought both front and rear for $47.20 shipped.

Bumper + Skid assembly: ---------------Bought front and rear for $8 shipped.

X TVPs: ------------------------------------Bought for $15 shipped.

CVDs (dogbones + cups): ---------------~$35 for all shipped.

Center diff and mount: -------------------Bought for $27 shipped.

Bellcrank/Servo Saver assembly: ------Bought for $6.50 shipped.

Axle carriers + bearings: ----------------Bought for $13 shipped.

Suspension arm hinge pins: -------------Bought front and rear for $4 shipped.

Screw set + misc: ------------------------Bought for $12 shipped.

F/R Turnbuckles: --------------------------Bought for $6.70 shipped.


Total cost so far... ----------------- $152.40 (Still makes my tiny wallet cry!)

The rest of the items that I can think of are small little parts that wont amount to much more. So what I have here has a total price
of about $200. This comes as a big suprise to me... I always thought it would cost so much more to build a roller out of new parts.

I had originally planned on buying a whole slew of hopups for my e-savage (Im Joey on www.e-savage.com also)... Looks like I found a new project!! If anyone sees anything big
missing, PLEASE let me know. All updates will be in this thread. Parts list will be updated when new items are bought, though the major bits
have been bought already... just waiting on the last few to arrive.

Thanks for looking.

[Joey]

Pictures of the main parts as they rolled in ---

[Joey]

[Joey]

Ive seen alot of amazing builds on these forums so Im looking forward to any input you all can give me. I bought some sluminum chassis braces
in the hopes that I can somehow make a center diff mount work. Is the GP motor plate something I should look into to mount the center diff onto??
Like I said Im new to GP trucks and conversion buils in general, so any info would be appreciated!

[lincpimp]

Hey Joey, looks like you have most of it... I have built a few gp savvy conversions, one on a old 21 and another with the flm chassis and new X SS kit. They seem reasonably straightforward, but i am using stock trannies in mine. Bithead has a cool looking savvy/hellfire hybrid that might give you some ideas on the center diff. He has a thread around here, think the truck is named brimstone, try searching that.

Metalman also has a savvy with a custom mounted center diff, check that out too.

I am just sticking with the stock 2 speed tranny locked in 2nd gear, should work well for my purposes...

[Joey]

Yeah Ive talked to Bithed quite a bit about it on esavage.com... hes a great help. Lots of great material here to get ideas from. Did you find a way to mount your 2 speed tranny lower in the 21 chassis or did you just throw it in the stock position?

[Joey]

My attention was brought to this speed/gearing calculator and it is amazing. I used it to get the following numbers...

http://www.scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/_top_speed.html

For savage diffs, center diff, 48T spur, 14T pinion, feigao 8XL (2084 kv), 16.8V nimh (I know.. I know...), and bow tie MTR tires I get:

-- Total Motor Speed: 35011 RPM
-- Theoretical Maximum Vehicle Speed: 51.89 MPH


With 9XL (1853 kv) it is:

-- Total Motor Speed: 31130 RPM
-- Theoretical Maximum Vehicle Speed: 46.14 MPH

If I switch it to the e-savage tranny the speeds drop by over 50%, so higher KV motors and gearing changes would be required for that. Im sure the actual speeds would probably drop by about 10% due to losses, so its probably more like 47 mph and 41.5 mph. I would be more than happy with either!

[BL_RV0]

Cool conversion sofar. My banana is banana is better than your banana though.

[BL_RV0]

I typed "is banana" twice!

[Joey]

Hahah BANANA REPRESENT!

[BL_RV0]

They are NOT rollers. You have to buy a roller then use the RC-M Conversion(!!) to make the roller electric... Banana FOR LIFE!

[Joey]

Originally Posted by BL_RV0

They are NOT rollers. You have to buy a roller then use the RC-M Conversion(!!) to make the roller electric... Banana FOR LIFE!

Yeah I just realized that... wow I totally was thrown off by the picture... But now I see the "whats included" section..!!! (stupid post removed!!!)

[BL_RV0]

[Joey]

Umm why cant I edit my first post to update the prices?? I can only edit these last couple posts. Is there an editing limit?

[What's_nitro?]

There's a 24 hour limit for editing posts. You can ask a Mod to edit it for you though.