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07.23.2009, 03:09 PM
i have owned Losi, TP, Enerland, PolyQuest, and NeuEnergy packs. I personally like the Neuenergy packs the best. i have the 30c packs now and i was thinking of getting their new 35c packs in the next couple of weeks. TP packs have always been great but i wish they would use 10ga wire on their packs instead of the old school 12ga. I had some enerlanc packs that had 8ga wire and were awesome but i still think the Neus were slightly better. i had a one of the new hyperion g3 packs but never used it. i sold it before i ever tried it but i know the Tekno guys LOVE them. the TP 40c pack only comes in 2s or 4s to my knowledge but if they make a 5s softpack in 40c let me know. that would be sick.
my understanding is that TP and NeuEnergy both have always used enerland cells. are they using something else now? TP has their new 30c propower line that i like. are they enerland? and is the 35c Neu enerland or not?
Jammin SCRT10 Neu 1512 1y
Losi Ten-T SCT conversion Neu 1512 1y
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RC-Monster Spudgunner
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07.23.2009, 03:17 PM
Look at the mah ratings, they don't match. It seems the new Neu packs aren't enerland, and I don't think the old ones were either... You should get the Neu 40c packs!
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Brushless Heavy Weight....
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07.23.2009, 04:15 PM
I love my polyQuest Packs... they seem to take a nice beating, even up to 60 Degrees celcius... they keep on ticking.. one puffed up, and a returned back to normal... PolyQuest all the way...
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Z-Pinch racer
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07.23.2009, 04:25 PM
No one uses Enerland anymore, except PolyQuest as far as I know.
A123Systems bought out Enerland, and Polyquest as well, as it is now a division of A123systems.
I am not sure if they have a 'newer' chemistry to compete with the other brands packs (G3 35C, TP 40C....), because the old school Enerland cells don't even compare to these packs, as good as they are.
About Chinese manufacturing... for a given price point, you CAN make a MUCH better product in China vs. Korea, or anywhere else. Take for example my oldest brother's brand new audiophile vacuum tube amplifier ('Melody' brand), this amp has been rated, with 'price-no-object', THE best amp in the world for mid range acoustics, period. The amp costs around $2,500... the quality is out of this world, the sounds it makes I can't even describe... now if you tried to make the very same amp, same quality control elsewhere, it will cost much more. My point here is well, I don't know what my point is... all I am saying is that you can make a much better product in China than anywhere else, as long as it's not a slave labor, boot camp type operation... simply because it is much cheaper to do things over there.
Im hungry, I'm going to get something to eat.
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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07.23.2009, 09:47 PM
You can't forget these cells 
They are the absolute best cells I have ever ran. It feels like there is another cell in the pack, definitely more powerful then the Hyperions.
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RC-Monster Spudgunner
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07.23.2009, 10:07 PM
You've ran the new hyperions and these? I remember, I think takedown, mentioned these awhile ago. Iever really looked into them though... I'll see what the hype is then I might add them or at least check if any numbers match up.
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Brushless Heavy Weight....
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07.23.2009, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zeropointbug
No one uses Enerland anymore, except PolyQuest as far as I know.
A123Systems bought out Enerland, and Polyquest as well, as it is now a division of A123systems.
I am not sure if they have a 'newer' chemistry to compete with the other brands packs (G3 35C, TP 40C....), because the old school Enerland cells don't even compare to these packs, as good as they are.
About Chinese manufacturing... for a given price point, you CAN make a MUCH better product in China vs. Korea, or anywhere else. Take for example my oldest brother's brand new audiophile vacuum tube amplifier ('Melody' brand), this amp has been rated, with 'price-no-object', THE best amp in the world for mid range acoustics, period. The amp costs around $2,500... the quality is out of this world, the sounds it makes I can't even describe... now if you tried to make the very same amp, same quality control elsewhere, it will cost much more. My point here is well, I don't know what my point is... all I am saying is that you can make a much better product in China than anywhere else, as long as it's not a slave labor, boot camp type operation... simply because it is much cheaper to do things over there.
Im hungry, I'm going to get something to eat.
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My next batch of lipos will be the G3s..... Can't wait to try these babies out..
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Motors and esc's 4 SALE!!
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07.24.2009, 05:57 PM
NEU NEU NEU!! These are the best packs I've used. I have owned maxamps, and FP. Neu packs are the only ones that I've used that seem to have every bit of burst all the way down to the end of the run. I love my Neu lipos!
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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07.24.2009, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Metallover
You've ran the new Hyperions and these? I remember, I think takedown, mentioned these awhile ago. I never really looked into them though... I'll see what the hype is then I might add them or at least check if any numbers match up.
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I've run them both, these FullyMax cells are beasts. The Hyperions are great, and for the price hard to beat. But for straight performance, nothing I've run is this good.
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Z-Pinch racer
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07.25.2009, 12:14 AM
Do you have any other packs you can compare with?
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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Brushless Mentat
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07.26.2009, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by zeropointbug
No one uses Enerland anymore, except PolyQuest as far as I know.
A123Systems bought out Enerland, and Polyquest as well, as it is now a division of A123systems.
I am not sure if they have a 'newer' chemistry to compete with the other brands packs (G3 35C, TP 40C....), because the old school Enerland cells don't even compare to these packs, as good as they are.
About Chinese manufacturing... for a given price point, you CAN make a MUCH better product in China vs. Korea, or anywhere else. Take for example my oldest brother's brand new audiophile vacuum tube amplifier ('Melody' brand), this amp has been rated, with 'price-no-object', THE best amp in the world for mid range acoustics, period. The amp costs around $2,500... the quality is out of this world, the sounds it makes I can't even describe... now if you tried to make the very same amp, same quality control elsewhere, it will cost much more. My point here is well, I don't know what my point is... all I am saying is that you can make a much better product in China than anywhere else, as long as it's not a slave labor, boot camp type operation... simply because it is much cheaper to do things over there.
Im hungry, I'm going to get something to eat.
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Sounds like you just wanted to brag about yours brothers AMP, which by the way is a total waste of money. I used to be into audiophile type amps, and let me tell you. you can't tell the difference from one amp to the next. We even tested that high end equipment in the electronics lab at my university and the cheaper shite came out on top. LOL.. Take the $2500 and buy a kick ass RC or donate it to some homeless kids
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Z-Pinch racer
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07.26.2009, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mentat
Sounds like you just wanted to brag about yours brothers AMP, which by the way is a total waste of money. I used to be into audiophile type amps, and let me tell you. you can't tell the difference from one amp to the next. We even tested that high end equipment in the electronics lab at my university and the cheaper shite came out on top. LOL.. Take the $2500 and buy a kick ass RC or donate it to some homeless kids
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Well you need a certain amount of brain cells to tell the difference, I am not sure, but I don't think that many.
I am not talking about your average supposedly 'hi-fi' amplifier here. Don't even bother arguing about it.
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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Brushless Mentat
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07.26.2009, 03:45 AM
Canadians.........
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BMW M Power!
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07.26.2009, 04:46 AM
I believe the Flightpowers are spec'd EVO25 and EVO30 and the new ones are EON28 and EON33.
I have a pair of 3S 3700mah EVO25's and a pair of 2S and a pair of 3S of 4500mah EVO30's and they are all excellent packs. Tons of power right until the end. Breaks all 4 wheels of my G2R loose even going a solid 20mph...
The only other packs I used were some Maxamps 8K's and those did not compare at all...
BL Revo: CF G2R, LMT1940/7, 6S FP 30C Lipos, MMM, Hitec 5955TG
CRT .5: 7075 Ext Chassis, LMT1930/7, FP 25C 3S Lipos, MM
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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07.26.2009, 06:21 AM
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You can't forget these cells 
They are the absolute best cells I have ever ran. It feels like there is another cell in the pack, definitely more powerful then the Hyperions.
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+1 on these packs. Just recently purchased a pair of 2600mah 6S I run parallel for 5200mah, and can just say wow. Hardly get warm. They out perform my 3S 4900mah 25c Trackpower's, and I think Flightpower's are under rated. Fullymax recommend only 2C charging, which is fine with me.
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