Lipo shootout is done!

[brushlessboy16]

Originally Posted by BP-Revo

That test didn't tell me much, to be honest.

The capacity should have been compared to weight. In one test an 8000mah pack could be last place on the weight test but first place on the capacity test.

Price should have also been compared to capacity and C rating. Can't knock a 35C pack for being 150 bucks and praise a 15C pack for being 80 bucks.

Personally, they should have made some sort of comparison for packs in the 4000-5000mah range or something.

Im kind of mad that they didnt include a zippy. they would have probably been in the top half of that field if not won.

[Metallover]

I wonder if maxamps did so bad that they told bigsquid not to put them in so it didn't hurt their rep. Or maybe they're too cheap or greedy. I thnk they'd lose in about all those categories too.

I honestly think most of this is random bits of information being shoved together like people going to an AA meeting. They all have something in common, but you can't rank them all fairly.

All the categories could use work too. Fit in a slash? Price?(maxamps loses) 30a load test and not __c? No big brands? Flawed top speed testing? Weight (regardless of mah)? Need to compare similar packs..

I'm getting a pair of True RC 8000mah 10c soon so hopefully they're good.

[Metallover]

I'd get zippies or hyperions if I were you. You'll be much happier, especially if those packs puff.

[hoober]

I like the shootout. At least they did something. Particularly impressed with the 3600 and the smc lightningvolts 5000.

I can easily see why overlaid graphs are much better to visually compare. 2-3 different currents are nice to do comparisons on different packs. 10, 30 , and 60 is nice. 30 is a nice comprimise.

overall I'm pretty impressed with article. If they had used cba graphs then later on it is easy to "add packs" or "share files"

If anyone is willing or able to test a pack that is similar perhaps we can "add" some more packs to the shootout. I have 1 2sx4000 I may do just to see where it stacks up.

[lincpimp]

This lipo shootout was for a stock slash. Useful if you want a good lipo for your stock slash, useless for anything else (save for observed lipo capacities, and maybe the voltage under load if you have a 30 amp draw).

I am sure a MA pack would have been fine, 30amps and a stock slash is not much load. They should have thrown in a decent 6 cell nimh stick pack for comparison, as that is what the majority of stock slash owners will run during bashing. Would have been nice to see that difference.

[nitrostarter]

After reading through, I wasn't too impressed with the testing either. Seems like they could have gotten around the same MAH in each of the packs to provide a closer competition. Also like Linc said, something a little more useful than stock Slash would have been nice, something more Amp hungry.

But they did have fancy bar graphs at the bottom of each page. thats a plus.

[hoober]

It is very hard to compare tests, but here's the best of my ability to do them with the bigsquid standards. It's as fair a comparison that I can give. AcePow 2sx4000 lipo,Good stick pack, generic e-bay stick pack.

[hoober]

Points Manufacturer/Battery Capacity
1 SMC Sport Max 8000mah 28c+ 7831
2 Thunder Power Sport Race 8000 22c 7704
3 True RC 6400 15c 6342
4 Thunder Power Sport Race 5400 25c 5354
5 CORE RC Core RC 5000 5188
6 True RC True RC 5000 5141 my used TRC pack ran 4781 mah
7 SMC C-Max 5200 40c+ 5060
8 Thunder Power Pro Race 5000 40c 4917
9 SMC Lightning Volts 5000 20c 4904
Good stick pack (4500) 4335
10 Speed Power 4000 25c 4017
AcePow 2sx4000 25C 3815 mah
11 Team Checkpoint 3600 30C 3589
e-bay stick pack (sold as 6800 mah) 2620

[hoober]

voltage under load test, this is very hard to get an average without the comp electronics, I wish I had one. After comparing my used TRC 2sx5000 pack I think it would be fair to knock off .2 volts from my votage under load readings for a fair comparison.


Points Manufacturer/Battery Voltage Under Load
AcePow 2sx4000 25C 7.24v
1 Thunder Power Pro Race 5000 40c 7.13v
1 Thunder Power Sport Race 8000 22c 7.13v
3 Thunder Power Sport Race 5400 25c 7.12v
4 SMC Sport Max 8000mah 28c+ 7.1v
5 SMC C-Max 5200 40c+ 7.08v
6 SMC Lightning Volts 5000 20c 7.03v
6 True RC 6400 15c 7.03v
8 Speed Power 4000 25c 6.98v
9 True RC True RC 5000 6.97v my used TRC ran 7.145
10 CORE RC Core RC 5000 6.96v
11 Team Checkpoint 3600 30C 6.8v
Good stick pack 6x4500 6.28v
Cheap stick pack 6x6800 5.74v

I had to use a 5 volt cut off for the generic e-bay super duty stick pack since it only ran 134 mah over 6 volts (not good)

[hoober]

Points Manufacturer/Battery Weight in Grams
1 Team Checkpoint 3600 30C 233
AcePow 2sx4000 25C 234
2 SMC Lightning Volts 5000 20c 235
3 Speed Power 4000 25c 256
4 True RC True RC 5000 275
5 CORE RC Core RC 5000 285
6 Thunder Power Sport Race 5400 25c 294
7 Thunder Power Pro Race 5000 40c 297
8 SMC C-Max 5200 40c+ 317
8 True RC 6400 15c 317
10 Thunder Power Sport Race 8000 22c 370
Cheap e-bay stick pack 372
11 SMC Sport Max 8000mah 28c+ 373
Good stick pack 422

I hope this is not copyright problem.

[Cain]

interesting results.

For the C Ratings on the TrueRC stuff, they didn't do too bad.

I guess what I would have liked to have seen is tests based on what the backs were rated at to confirm if they fit the C rating or not.

[hoober]

Yes, (more power) hehe. TrueRC is one of the few whose ratings I have trusted.

[Bondonutz]

Originally Posted by hoober

Yes, (more power) hehe. TrueRC is one of the few whose ratings I have trusted.

I haven't bought a TRC pack in a while since I found Zippys, the only beef I have with Dans packs are they are only rated at 20C max. Not that I've had a problem but if he had 30C's I'd rather had bought them instead. I have
(2) TRC 2s 8000mah 20C in my ERBL and they are great packs, very happy with performance and after 150+ cycles still balance perfect.Money well spent.

[hoober]

It may be a case where Dan's 20C are better than a lot of other's 30-35C.