Another MBX6T-Brushless Conversion

hahahaha confusions.....

Mike the chassis looks Nice, a bit simulair to my first "stock" conversion. The reason for me to go Tekno is the way it's balanced. I use the big heavy hyperion vxg3 packs and with the stock chassis I had to move everything to one site to get it balanced. But I was also not happy with the ESC mounting position. (See pics earlier on)

With the rcmonster conversion you need two lighter 2s packs to get it balanced voor Racing. For Bashing it would be fine maybe.

Both are relieble and well done....

[RC-Monster Mike]

I think some of your "balanced for racing" ithoughts are perhaps just thoughts. The Tekin ESC weighs 2.6oz total weight - moving this from one side to the other on a truggy will hardly move the "balance point" at all(2.6oz is 1.6% of a 10 pound truggy).
If you weigh the 4s 5500mah g3 pack(21.2oz), one of our battery trays(2.5-3oz) and the ESC(2.6oz), the total weight is 26-27oz for the left side of the chassis. The steering servo, transponder, center diff and mounts,motor mount, Tekin truggy motor, pinion, chassis braces, steering linkage are all on the opposite side and weigh a total of 24-25oz on the MBX6T. This is about a 2oz difference and results in less left/right weight difference than a tank of fuel(which is full in a nitro car at the beginning and empty at the end of a race usually). With the ESC behind the motor as you had it, the balance is within 1-2oz. Neither is very perceptible during driving with a truggy (I am a racer and am pretty particular myself with proper setup).
Now, proximity to the center line of these weighted items plays a role in the actual left/right balance, but the battery(heaviest item on left side) is similarly positioned vs. the center line as the motor and servo position on the right - the result is a quite well balanced vehicle in the end. Add to this the fact that the completed Tekno car will typically weigh 8 or 9 oz more than an RC-Monster converted car, and the "balanced for racing" argument can sway either way.
I haven't done the math on Tekno's kit for balance, but even with a stock chassis conversion, my parts balance out pretty well on the truggy. My regular battery tray can also be moved fore or aft on the chassis to further tune weight bias(front/rear) for additional tuning.
I will be curious to see what your race results yield. Tekno offers quality kits, and their kit descriptions invoke racing confidence(as any product description should). Lap times determines the race winner, though. The Tekno strategy typically yields a heavier car with a well planted feel. The clutch can smooth an otherwise erratic trigger finger as well as impede "pop" over short jumps. The result is usually a smooth transition from nitro, and a well planted ride. Our kit is a bit lighter, faster and more nimble. Personal preference and the end users ability to tune the chassis will also play a factor in the end results. Either strategy can win on race day, but I don't believe there is a appreciable "balance" advantage with either kit. :)

Mike,

Thanks for your replay....All good facts....

I Like proper setups too But I just want to say that my own conversion on the stock chassis was a little unbalanced. That's the reason i tested it with lighter batteries to feel the differance. It was also the reason that i place the controller on the right side.
It's not that bad, but the way it handles was different. With the 5500VXG3 pack the car had more steering to the right as to the left. Maybe my battery tray was havier than yours. No thouhts but facts in my case.
I just want a perfect balance in my car like your conversion. I like testing new nice stuff too...
The Tekno conversion is nice and clean too. I will go for a testdrive later this week to feel the difference. Maybe I don't like it and will go back to the Rcmonster style setup
(I'm not going to use the clutch, but longshrank)

Arno

[jzemaxx]

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike

I attached a few pictures of our "stock chassis" mbx6T conversion - will be ready for sale in a few days. Everything bolts onto the stock chassis - no mods required. The battery/esc tray is pocketed on the underside for wire routing, and drilled at the ESC location for the Tekin RX8 as well as the Traxxas MMM hold-down. Built in rx mount with transponder mount is similar to our other offerings. A unique and handy feature of this kit is the fact that removing 12 screws allows the owner to completely remove all the electronics from the chassis without unplugging or unsoldering anything. :)

Mike......how much for the kit??? Also when will you have it ready for purchase online?

The pic's:

[Jarvis]

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike

I attached a few pictures of our "stock chassis" mbx6T conversion - will be ready for sale in a few days. Everything bolts onto the stock chassis - no mods required. The battery/esc tray is pocketed on the underside for wire routing, and drilled at the ESC location for the Tekin RX8 as well as the Traxxas MMM hold-down. Built in rx mount with transponder mount is similar to our other offerings. A unique and handy feature of this kit is the fact that removing 12 screws allows the owner to completely remove all the electronics from the chassis without unplugging or unsoldering anything. :)

Is the slipper included?

[RC-Monster Mike]

Kit will be $100. $220 for the kit that includes the Slipperential. :)

[jzemaxx]

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike

Kit will be $100. $220 for the kit that includes the Slipperential. :)

Got the Motor mounts in stock?? I will order one this coming week once my MBX6-T arrives.

Thanks

[RC-Monster Mike]

I have motor mounts - will get the batt/esc trays and servo plates cut this week and should have the kits listed and available over the weekend or 1stthing next week. :)

[jzemaxx]

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike

I attached a few pictures of our "stock chassis" mbx6T conversion - will be ready for sale in a few days. Everything bolts onto the stock chassis - no mods required. The battery/esc tray is pocketed on the underside for wire routing, and drilled at the ESC location for the Tekin RX8 as well as the Traxxas MMM hold-down. Built in rx mount with transponder mount is similar to our other offerings. A unique and handy feature of this kit is the fact that removing 12 screws allows the owner to completely remove all the electronics from the chassis without unplugging or unsoldering anything. :)

Mike is the battery tray the same size as say the Losi batt tray they use in their conversion. I need the tray to be at least that wide. If so get me something where I can order this. I am ready to get this project done.

[RC-Monster Mike]

http://rc-monster.com/proddetail.php?prod=rcmmbx6tsckit

The battery tray dimesnions are in the listing - 51.5mm x 169mm inner tray dimensions. :)

[jzemaxx]

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike

http://rc-monster.com/proddetail.php?prod=rcmmbx6tsckit

The battery tray dimesnions are in the listing - 51.5mm x 169mm inner tray dimensions. :)

Just ordered the kit...thanks

[jzemaxx]

Kit was installed from Mike and it was great. Fit perfect.....took the truck out the next day and TQ's and won the main. Great setup indeed.

[mihael]

how is the balance of teh rc monster conversion kit?
the esc and battery on the same side are much heavier then the motor and the servo only on the other side


mihael

[jzemaxx]

Originally Posted by mihael

how is the balance of teh rc monster conversion kit?
the esc and battery on the same side are much heavier then the motor and the servo only on the other side


mihael

Balance is good. No problems that I could feel with the truck going around the track.