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Droppy - 10.19.2009, 08:01 PM

When setting droop is it done when battery is in car.
   
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10.19.2009, 08:19 PM

Yes, you want to set it up as it will be run. If you don't you could end up with the suspension too soft.


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10.19.2009, 09:07 PM

Droop is irrelevant.

Should use the final shock length as your droop setting. battery doesnt change that


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10.19.2009, 09:30 PM

So what does final shock length mean?
   
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10.19.2009, 09:37 PM

the shock distance betwtween the upper and lower bolts

Droop is how far the a-arms drop at full extension. its Impossible for the weight of the battery to change this value- which makes it unaffected by extra weight


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Droop is how far the a-arms drop at full extension. its Impossible for the weight of the battery to change this value- which makes it unaffected by extra weight
Oops, I thought he meant adjusting spring pre-load or stiffness for different ride height where you want the RC to come up about 2/3 of the total shock travel.


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10.20.2009, 03:12 PM

As far as I know, droop and ride height are the same thing... so yes, you need the battery in the car for that. Am I missing something?


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10.20.2009, 04:55 PM

I'm no track expert, but from my understanding the droop is a adjustment one can make to limit downward travel. It's one of the last things you adjust when tuning a vehicles suspension for whatever particular track your on.


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I'm no track expert, but from my understanding the droop is a adjustment one can make to limit downward travel. It's one of the last things you adjust when tuning a vehicles suspension for whatever particular track your on.
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droop is how much downward travel is limited. via setscrews in the a-arm


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10.20.2009, 05:28 PM

Weight has no effect on the droop setting. Droop sets to bottom limit that the arms can extend at full extension. Its easiest to set the car up on blocks or a stand and take the wheels off then measure the length of the shocks. There are some fancier methods out there, but thats the simple and effective way.


Droop is actually a very powerful tuning adjustment. Can really effect how the car handles.


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Droop is actually a very powerful tuning adjustment. Can really effect how the car handles.
Care to elaborate for us whom like to learn more ?
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What he said.
   
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10.21.2009, 09:50 AM

As mentioned, droop is the amount of down travel the suspension has. Not affected by battery weight, but here are some key handling impacts this adjustment can have:

Limited droop will effectively limit chassis roll(which generally lowers traction) - an example where this would be effective would be a smooth or hard packed track where you have lots of traction and wish to minimize chassis roll for quicker transitional handling and less possibility to traction roll the vehicle, as well as lower overall traction to allow you to slide the car a bit better. Stiffer sway bar springs, shock oil and shock springs would impact handling similarly from a traction perspective.
Conversely, a setup with lots of down travel is best for rougher tracks, lower traction tracks and large jumps. More down travel allows the shock more time to absorb a large jump, allows more overall suspension movement(increases traction and chassis roll). A softer sway bar, softer shock oil(except for big jumps of course) and softer shock springs will impact handling similarly.
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10.21.2009, 10:27 AM

Thanks Mike that was very helpful
   
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Mr Mike,

I've found and read several articles yesterday but your explanation was one of the best and easiest to understand for a thick headed redneck like myself, Thanks


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