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12.06.2009, 05:10 PM

ok ! so 4s is the ticket ?
   
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12.06.2009, 05:55 PM

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is there a centerdiff aviable for the flux ?
No there is not to my knowledge and that wouldn't help your issue. You also failed to mention to us that your driving the Flux in near 0 temperature conditions and snow. Were you not aware that colder temps can make plastic and even metal more brittle and more likely to crack and break vs regular room temperatures? I think that combined with the stress induced of running your Flux 6S is the cause of your problems. These trucks were never designed to handle those type of running conditions.

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ok ! so 4s is the ticket ?
i think so, I put my flux through things my brushless emaxx would have never survived.
   
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12.06.2009, 06:31 PM

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You also failed to mention to use that your driving the Flux in near 0 temperature conditions and snow. Were you not aware that colder temps can make plastic and even metal more brittle and more likely to crack and break vs regular room temperatures. .
He has ignored every question regarding drivng style/conditions - which makes me suspect that the cause of the failures is user induced. If in fact he is running it at 0 degrees F on 6S, then yes, that is the cause of the problems. I would also bet that the traxxas vehicles he quoted would never hold up to half the power he is putting out with the flux.


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I would also bet that the traxxas vehicles he quoted would never hold up to half the power he is putting out with the flux.
   
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12.06.2009, 06:49 PM

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He has ignored every question regarding drivng style/conditions - which makes me suspect that the cause of the failures is user induced. If in fact he is running it at 0 degrees F on 6S, then yes, that is the cause of the problems. I would also bet that the traxxas vehicles he quoted would never hold up to half the power he is putting out with the flux.
You wonder what is going on.. I've have yet to hear of a diffcup failing. Mine are over a year old and are fine. The pins have worn them a bit, but never cracking them. Ran it in the snow too, but then again, I was not out to murder it.
   
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12.06.2009, 07:15 PM

I am not sure what you are doing to your savage, however I beat mine HARD and have not broken that many parts. Especially driveshafts, dogbones or output cups..I am not even sure how those break to be honest. I would talk to HPI and MAYBE you got a lemon...Or MAYBE you need some driving lessons? If the truck is bound up in a rock or something, that doesn't mean pull the trigger all the way...
   
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12.06.2009, 07:54 PM

Well, if the output shaft and drive cup are one-piece, then do like alot of guys (me included) and replace the stock shafts with something like what Mike sells for the revo hybrid diffs, then you can run any cup you want.

6s lipo + cold weather + heavy bashing/ abuse = broken parts- the emaxx and erevo wouldnt fair much better under the same circumstances, and they also have much more plastic plastic on them..
   
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12.06.2009, 08:11 PM

I split a cup out on the wheel end - also had a bad bearing there too. But that was more likely due to some of the jumps I landed, not a quality issue.

My stock diff gears were in pristine condition when I replaced them - and the ONLY thing I dont do to abuse my truck is standing backflips. The launch ramps I use can give me 40 -50 foot jumps, 10+ feet high and I rarely land it on the wheels. My Flux was one of the first to be shipped by Tower, so its been almost a year now, and the drivetrain is light years ahead of any Revo or Emaxx I have ever run. Same jumps with the Revo, and I stopped by the hobby shop EVERY trip home from bashing for some part of the drive train.

In my experience (notice my join date), the details provided so far reflect user error, not product deficiency. You have to learn when and where you can use the power these things have. And yes, sometimes that learning comes through your wallet. I've got a 500HP truck sitting outside. Can I just go out, build the boost up to 50psi and let it rip - no. I'd first wring the driveshaft into a wet noodle, then my tranny would probably collapse on itself - even though I just dumped 5 grand into building it. Every mechanical object has its limitations, be it a 600 dollar truck, or a 60K truck.


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12.06.2009, 08:17 PM

Well said !
post pics of the Non RC truck !


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12.06.2009, 08:30 PM

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I split a cup out on the wheel end - also had a bad bearing there too. But that was more likely due to some of the jumps I landed, not a quality issue.

My stock diff gears were in pristine condition when I replaced them - and the ONLY thing I dont do to abuse my truck is standing backflips. The launch ramps I use can give me 40 -50 foot jumps, 10+ feet high and I rarely land it on the wheels. My Flux was one of the first to be shipped by Tower, so its been almost a year now, and the drivetrain is light years ahead of any Revo or Emaxx I have ever run. Same jumps with the Revo, and I stopped by the hobby shop EVERY trip home from bashing for some part of the drive train.

In my experience (notice my join date), the details provided so far reflect user error, not product deficiency. You have to learn when and where you can use the power these things have. And yes, sometimes that learning comes through your wallet. I've got a 500HP truck sitting outside. Can I just go out, build the boost up to 50psi and let it rip - no. I'd first wring the driveshaft into a wet noodle, then my tranny would probably collapse on itself - even though I just dumped 5 grand into building it. Every mechanical object has its limitations, be it a 600 dollar truck, or a 60K truck.
+1 on this

I think I bought the first Flux in Western Australia, never had a diff issue, a dogbone issue etc. I have busted a pinion, a top drive gear, a slipper pad, an RPM arm and bent the stock chassis on more than one occasion.

Thats not bad for near on a year now.

People assume the Flux is this bulletproof truck, it's not but it's close! As you get more experience in RC you'll break less parts.


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12.07.2009, 05:19 AM

Ok !

Sorry for not telling you about my driving style and weatherconditions !
But i don't abuse my rc cars that mutch ! chure i jump of some dirtpiles and stuuff but nothing extreme ! And i've driven my other trucks in alotcolder temps without breaking parts !!

I've 16years of experiance of rc cars and i've never had a rccar this expencive break so often !
   
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12.10.2009, 02:05 PM

then you have bad luck and your truck hates you. Send it to me. All my RC's love me, and I might be able to heal yours.


the part is broken. ring hpi, and maybe they will have mercy on your 'new' 35min truck and send you some spares
   
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12.10.2009, 09:52 PM

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then you have bad luck and your truck hates you. Send it to me. All my RC's love me, and I might be able to heal yours.


the part is broken. ring hpi, and maybe they will have mercy on your 'new' 35min truck and send you some spares
Tell em freezebyte sent you


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