Big ass brushless savage

[Jahay]

link my weight distribution is pretty much 50/50 with the lipos in the rear and the motor up front, soi am not worried about that at all...
Maybe the LST platform works, but the savage platform is no doubtly stronger due to the design. It does make working on it more difficcult but that doesnt bother me, and once i have the centre diff conversion, i will never have to take the TVPs off to wrench on it.

I did notcie wheni had to tighten my slipper really tight that my diffs were going "Click Clack" when landing etc... but these BP diffs are so strong they still look brand new!

BONDO!!! if you can, cancel your order for the FLM Bulks... They are ok but absolute B***H to work with as they are not easy access and you may have probs with drive cups. Go with the Golden Horizons Bulks! They maintain the same set up as stock and are extremely strong and work with the Stock SHD Axles!!!

Link i have also been running huge MOABs on my truck for a short while with no problems as it is geared correctly. But huge tyres are crap anyway why would you want to use them? my maxx size badlands are the best tyre for grip! I only use the moabs for jumping as they give enough rotational mass to give great air control

Whip i was running the fully hardened tranny too and it was rubbish and expensive... Just kept on stripping gears in my tranny even though it was perfectly shimmed.
The torque your tekin produces is no where near the 1520 on 6s let alone the 9s i will be running. Just too many variables that can go wrong in the tranny...

linc, plus it is not necessarry to run the lipos in the rear, you can always run your lipos on the side of the chassis which is placed more towards teh front of the chassis. What ilike about this is that i can run lipos in the chassis and on the outside, so i always have plenty of room for lipos...

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Jahay

link my weight distribution is pretty much 50/50 with the lipos in the rear and the motor up front, soi am not worried about that at all...
Maybe the LST platform works, but the savage platform is no doubtly stronger due to the design. It does make working on it more difficcult but that doesnt bother me, and once i have the centre diff conversion, i will never have to take the TVPs off to wrench on it.

I did notcie wheni had to tighten my slipper really tight that my diffs were going "Click Clack" when landing etc... but these BP diffs are so strong they still look brand new!

BONDO!!! if you can, cancel your order for the FLM Bulks... They are ok but absolute B***H to work with as they are not easy access and you may have probs with drive cups. Go with the Golden Horizons Bulks! They maintain the same set up as stock and are extremely strong and work with the Stock SHD Axles!!!

Link i have also been running huge MOABs on my truck for a short while with no problems as it is geared correctly. But huge tyres are crap anyway why would you want to use them? my maxx size badlands are the best tyre for grip! I only use the moabs for jumping as they give enough rotational mass to give great air control

Whip i was running the fully hardened tranny too and it was rubbish and expensive... Just kept on stripping gears in my tranny even though it was perfectly shimmed.
The torque your tekin produces is no where near the 1520 on 6s let alone the 9s i will be running. Just too many variables that can go wrong in the tranny...

linc, plus it is not necessarry to run the lipos in the rear, you can always run your lipos on the side of the chassis which is placed more towards teh front of the chassis. What ilike about this is that i can run lipos in the chassis and on the outside, so i always have plenty of room for lipos...

50/50 is not ideal for a monster truck. You want more weight in the front to help counteract the wheelies. Since you have a center diff in your truck you now have a completely different setup to what I was referrring to, a true MT with a transmission.

The savage is not stronger than a lst. I have both. The chassis on a savage will deform when you smash it good. The lst plate chassis is torsionally superior too. Up and down forces are not the only ones these trucks have to cope with.

Savage diffs suck. I tried them all and the lack of a solid diff case is the root of the problem. The lst comes with that solution stock, and you can run tin coated gears and al cups if you want a sturdy diff. Big tires reek havoc with diff internals, but really thick fluid helps, along with a properly set slipper.

As for the slipper, the clutch pack style on the lst is vastly superior than the pad thingy on the savage tranny. Mikes slipperential is better than the savage but I do not see it doing as well as the lst tranny/slipper setup.

The lst places the motor transversely so you do not have a motor torque twist issue to deal with.

Only bad thing on the lst is the steering design, still easier to mod that than trying to keep a savage together with a 1521 or bigger motor.

Until you push a lst you have no idea what the platform is capable of, how well it is designed, and how poor the savage really is...

The tvp design looks good on paper, but it is not that great in use, causes all kinds of access issues and leaves very little real estate to work with. You can hang some battery boxes off the sides but your batteries are not protected as well and the boxes must be bulkier and heavier to properly hold and protect the packs.

Nothing wrong with a savage flux, pretty good truck out of the box. But it will not last as long as a lst and cannot handle the power as well. Just look at all of the savvy users that put lst shocks on, they are better than the savage units. Well everything on a lst is as good as those shocks, and better than the savage. The lst costs more new too... Maybe you get what you pay for?

Nothing wrong with a savage, but it is what it is, better than a maxx/revo, but not as good as the lst.

[Bondonutz]

Well spoken James.
Congradualtions, Your making me rethink my situation now. I agree with everything you said about the LST platform because I've found all of it to be true by first hand basis.

I did not realize some of these potental issues of the Savage design. When tearing apart my Flux I was aggrevated and cursing the design but chaulked it up as being unfimiliar with the assembly.(My first mistake I guess?) I'm mainly concerned with the diffs, I did buy the BP units first off. They are really beefy gears, I guess I see how they hold up ? I had probs with the REVO diffs till I did the LST diff mod, wounder if the same can be done to the Savy ?

My other concern is the limp wristed slipper assembly, your totally right on that ! No comparison to the LST. But I did buy the Kershiz SuperDuty slipper dealie-o, It will either make it better or worse ?

The unbeleivable backwards process of aquireing all my parts may allow me more time to think and rethink WTF I'm doing ?

[lincpimp]

No prb Dawg, just trying to impart some of my experience...

I got a savage after fooling with emaxx and converted nitro revos. So much better, but I did get sick of fooling with the diffs. Then the lst rolled in and I was blown away with how easy it was to work on and how the drivetrain stayed together.

I will say the golden horizons savage bulks are the best looking by design, and with the bp diffs it should aleviate the issue, at the cost of another lst roller...

I still have a stretched chassis savvy to sell, and the 5t chassis. Will make a 5th scale truck based on the lst platform. I have a 5t body laying around...

[Jahay]

hmmm... i will definitely take what you have said on board.... im going to do some LST research... I love everything about the savage except the tranny. I was never a fan of the LST because of the way it was setup... but i will have a closer look into it.

BTW... people use LST Shocks on a savage for bling factor as they are huge... They actually do no benefit the savage in anyway as they were not designed for the savage. They require a more up right mounting position rather than the diagonal style that the savage possess. This results in a lot of bent LST Shafts. They are over weight and not as strong as the Big bores...

you do speak very highly of the LST and maybe i have missed something here... I have always been a savage lover and love the reasons its hard to work on too. Just makes it more interesting working around themmm

[whipnet]

Just going by physics alone, I am not sure how anything can be stronger than a twin verticle plates setup. Makes it harder to work on, but it's got to be stronger. I jump my Savage off my house. (I have Baja 5B shocks, that helps.)

However hearing about the LST here has piqued my interest. I've always liked LOSI. Might have to pick up one.

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