1406 4 pole 4600kv - Page 8 - RC-Monster Forums

SunnyHouTX · 01.18.2011, 09:49 PM

Oh we care, trust me. Good write up too slim, another testament to CC quality and innovation. I get to test out my 1406-7700 this weekend and I've got a 45C 4S coming to make things a little more interesting

slimthelineman · 01.18.2011, 10:00 PM

Thanks Sunny, did I read that wrong or are you gonna throw a four cell at that 7700?!?! Great Scott that's like 1.1gigawatts!!! Sounds like fun! These new four pole mills are outstanding. Only thing holding them back from absolute perfection is a sensor. And the way cc does stuff when it does happen I'm sure it won't be at the cost of efficiency like the masses. Although I don't really notice the missing sensor wire except that it's not getting ripped out of the endbell during a bad crash.

SunnyHouTX · 01.18.2011, 10:08 PM

See, I don't really care for a sensor wire in drag racing, but I can definitely use the "always forward mode" that sensors offer

But yes, I'm gonna stick the 4S in this weekend if the pack makes it in time for me to do a couple cycles on it before racing.

scarletboa · 04:34 PM

i'm running the 1410 motor in a very heavy crt .5 geared for 50-55mph on 3s and the esc will overheat after about 10 minutes, but the motor hasn't gotten over 125F yet. it is an extremely efficient little motor. i can't see any reasons why this little motor can't push an 1/8 buggy or light MT around. it is incredibly torquey and i will be buying another motor for sure once they release it by itself. it should be able to push a rustler to 70mph without breaking a sweat, unlike the vxl motor. this awesome new motor makes twice the power and only 1/3 of the heat that my old vxl makes. the esc is the definitely the weak link in this combo. it is better than the normal sidewinder, but not quite as good as a MM.
i'll be throwing the esc in my old rustler vxl and throwing my MMP in the crt .5.

btw, sorry if my post doesn't make very much sense. i just had a wisdom tooth removed yesterday and i'm a little medicated at the moment

SunnyHouTX · 01.23.2011, 10:39 AM

Well... made one pass with the dragster on 4S. Launched nice and easy and then trail of smoke and I knew it was time to get out of it. Hmmm I know I didn't put any nitro in there

Looks like time was up for this ESC, after a long time of service in my drag cars. It still arms up and works fine free spinning, but smokes as soon as you put the car on the ground. Testing to continue February 12.

slimthelineman · 01.24.2011, 07:01 PM

Bummer dude! You let out the magic smoke! You sure it wasn't just the tires smokin behind the 4s power on a 4-pole? Ha ha ha can't wait to hear your results when you get some passes down with that setup. Btw you ever get a chance to run the cm-36-9000?

SunnyHouTX · 11:53 PM

Yeah I've run the 9000Kv before in my funny car and managed a 1.46s best ET with it, around 90mph. I plan on going back to that as soon as I'm done with the 1406-7700.

slimthelineman · 01.24.2011, 11:51 PM

Whoa that's quick man. Glad to hear it's workin for ya. I love go fast cars, never tried dragsters but used to run alot of touring cars. Just got burnt out on the constant tweakin on the tourers. Went to west coast today to run the 4600 in my rash some more and the track was closed for matinance. I just figured it took so long cause the guy working on it was wearing a novak shirt and moving about as slow as their stuff does;)

Bondonutz · 01.28.2011, 09:02 PM

Subscribed.
Just ordered 1410 for a Hyper 10TT, should be potent !

lincpimp · 01.29.2011, 12:05 AM

I have a sidewinder sc combo with the 1410 motor waiting to go in my old 2wd pede. Should be alot of fun!

slimthelineman · 01.30.2011, 01:52 PM

Raced with the 1406-4600 Friday night in my lcg slash (rash) and am wantin more of these motors for my other rigs. No timing on my setups so needless to say the four pole motor has huge bottom end. But at the same the topend is wicked fast. Truck is about 5.25lbs rtr and it gets tossed around like a rag doll with this mill pushing it. Still am shocked at how smoooooth the power band is on this thing for a sensorless motor. Damn close to the same feel as the sensored setup that was in it before but with way more power. Temps are not worth mentioning really lipos and esc warm and the motor is an ice cold 135 after a six minute race with me beatin on it like it owes me money. Got a practice run that lasted about 20 minutes and had the motor up to 150(my record for this motor in two wheel and four wheel platforms) had to stop cause they were watering the track or I would have went till I hit lvc. Using turnigy 20c 5000 and like the weight and power they give me. Think I used around 3500-4000 on that run. Can't remeber what the chareger said when it was done, but it's feasable to run all three of my heats on one pack due to the efficiency of the motor and esc. Will try it next time I race 2 wheel isn't my love so I just have alot of fun, now 4 wheel is a different story though..... Again this was all made possible by Patrick himself and I think people are starting to take cc more seriously at the tracks. I see more and more castle stuff every time I go. Especially the new sc motors, people took notice when I started running this motor and followed suit(understandably) thanks Patrick and go castle!

DrKnow65 · 01.30.2011, 02:05 PM

Slimthelineman, you may want to go up to a 40/50c pack, you'll have less voltage drop and a bit more punch, which sounds unnecessary, but if you make more power you can back off the throttle even more. That will bring the temps down a touch more and keep you off the LVC even longer, which means you can size the pack down a bit and save some weight...

Sounds like a bitchen setup so far!

Looking forward to trying some of these 14xx motors in a Ofna 10SC that should hit my door around Wednesday.

slimthelineman · 01.30.2011, 03:40 PM

I would but the 20c packs are the only ones I could fit in my lcg conversion. They don't even get past warm. I forgot to use my watt meter bit I think they are providing plenty of juice. Not to mention they only weigh about 270g for a 5000. Have ran this motor on 40-50c packs on the past in other heavier rigs and for what it's worth I don't really see any differance in 1/10 scale applications other than a little extra heat. Now 1/8 scale is a different story, with the power those things lay down I can say for sure I have noticed a differance in performance and heat with higher c rated packs.

DrKnow65 · 01.30.2011, 03:42 PM

I find I'm becoming a big fan of Castle and Turnigy power trains

slimthelineman · 07:48 PM

Word. With me it's all about bang for buck. The turnigy packs work as good as any of the other big name American brands I've used which is most(yes even ma.....) at a fraction of the cost. Which really helps when you race more than one class. Right now I run three so that's six packs minimum. No puffing never got a dead pack and have a few packs I've been running for over a year and a half in the rc8be that work as good now as the day I got em. As for castle, no coment needed started running their stuff when they released the mmm and have never looked back. I love the way their stuff works, the reasonable prices and the awesome support. When I'm at the track I try to pay it forward as much as possible for fellow cc users. Always have my laptop out with cc link up programing for whoever wants it and just giving general help and advice on gearing etc. My favorite is when they get the brown outs and have tried everything until I tweak on their setup for a couple mins and bam! Problem solved. Just try to make people feel like part of the cc family since they have takin such good care of me.