Bully beatdown...kinda

[JERRY2KONE]

If you watched Casey's interview you can see that there is no way he was doing any kind of bullying or tormenting of this idiot Richard. Richard is full of crap and making excuses to cover up the fact that he is just a little a$$ with a big mouth. I suspect from that remark that he still has not learnt is lesson and will more than likely end up in another video soon. Only this time he might end up in the Hospital. He knows he was wrong, but yet still can't keep his trap shut. Heres a straw, suck it up.

And I believe you got it backwards. Casey is being raised by his father. Richard is being raised by his mother. That is why there have been interviews with Richard's mother saying that Richard deserves an aplogy from Casey for slamming him on the ground like that. Obviously when she watches the video she is seeing something completely different from what we are seeing. The world has poured out by the hundreds of thousands with well wishes and cheers for Casey for finally standing up for himself and defending himself. Casey is an overnight celebrity.

[BP-Revo]

It's complete BS that the bigger kid got suspended. Unfortunately, my high school had the same policy.

At my school, if some kid randomly walked up to you cause he was having a bad day and just started pummeling you, and you sat there and took it, and had 100 witnesses to back you up, they would still suspend BOTH students. So you could literally sit there and just get the sh!t beat out of you and still get suspended anyway.

When I learned of this rule I told myself the second the other guy threw the first punch I would beat him into the ground. The reason? I'm gonna get suspended anyway. Might as well show the other kid it was a mistake to start anything with me and it would also ward off others from trying to start stuff after they saw me pummel the dude without remorse. Fortunately, I never had to do any of this and go through with nothing but about 100 "tardys" for being late.

I think this rule is COMPLETELY stupid as it almost promotes more violence. If they would do what is right by NOT punishing the victim, it would promote the victim to not fight back and just to report what happened. However, by punishing the victim anyway, you are basically giving him a free card to beat the hell out of the other kid since he's going to get punished anyway.

[pinkpanda3310]

Originally Posted by PBO

Ritchard is being raised by his single father. He claims to have been the victim of bullying also & alleges that he was reacting to Casey because "He abused me first ... he was like 'get to class, you idiot', all that sort of stuff," says Ritchard

I guess this illustrates the complex dynamics that surround bullying & how things may not be exactly as they seem. Casey may well have let go a remark or two - hardly deserving of anything but Ritchard (probably with subsequent education & conditioning) will now see what purchase he can gain on the situation. Why is he a bully? maybe he trying to get attention, maybe he's fighting his own demons, maybe he wants to be popular etc hard to know

Everyone has experiences where they are bullied in some way...you learn from these & develop skills to assert yourself or mitigate the risk

I had a kid at school who wanted the attention of his parents & popularity so he thought he'd try the bullyboy routine with me. I have long arms, a lot longer than his & I pinned him against a wall by his throat for a long time. He was flailing around kicking & punching (my arm) but the more he did the tighter I squeezed, the less he did the looser my grip...anyway after a while he caught on & realised I was in control & he started crying - which at the time I thought was pretty funny (& so did the army of spectators) but it was really quiet sad. Long story short we came friends of sorts & I was able to control his bullying of others by pointing to my hand...as in 'you'll get this again if you don't stop'. He ended up in prison

Another was a much larger Tongan who was a few years older. Was a random thing but culminated in me finally taking a stand against him in front of a bus full of kids. He was shocked enough to sit back down & never bothered again

Like James, I learnt that public humiliation is a powerful tool when used in the right way

Today I manage a business & part of that is managing inter personal conflicts (& bullying to a lesser extent). Being able to empathise with people is a large part of people management & bullies last only a few minutes with me

Also my kids are going to school & dealing with these issues. My son has a disability & will be the target of bullies however he has the ability to charm the pants of most people & uses this to full effect. My daughter is quiet but very assertive & has already swiftly dealt with a few not-so-nice girls. I hope they continue to employ & learn from these skills...

Interesting post PBO.

At 16-17 I had a friend who had been raised by his aging, alcoholic mum. His older brothers were in and out of jail. So there wasn't much hope for him. To add to the mix she was a school teacher

Some people never change hey Linc? Sounds like you haven't changed your attitude towards him. I'm not trying to knock you just point out it's hard for a lot of people to change when relationship has been forged.

[kulangflow]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

From what I can see there are a lot of us that have been picked on one time or antother(sic).

What are the chances a bunch of grown men who play with toy cars were all coincidentally teased as children?

Nothing meant by that, I just couldn't resist.

I was never really picked on at school growing up, but I did my fair share of standing up for others who were picked on. I got more than my share of pummelings at home as the 6th of 8 brothers, but that taught me how not to treat others, and also how to stand up when necessary. Now we're all best friends (8 brothers), so I guess it worked out.

[scarletboa]

i was always the short, fat kid throughout most of my public schooling and when i say fat, i don't mean a little chunky. i got pretty round right about 2nd grade. i was always being picked on from there on until about the middle of 8th grade. i ended up having PE with the 2 biggest (both height and weight) kids in the entire school. i was friends with one of the two 250lb+ 6'3"+ kids and the other had been picking on me all year. by the way, i was about 4'8" at the time and probably about 160-180lbs also at the time, so i was quite plump.

halfway through the year, i was having a fairly bad day, but was happily playing a game called wall ball with a couple of my nerdy friends. this bully ended up coming up behind me and knocked me to the ground. i shrugged it off and pretended like it didn't even happen. i didn't even look at him to acknowledge that i noticed it. then, he took the ball and kicked it out into the field and started talking shit. once again, i completely ignored him and calmly walked to the field and got the ball. after about 2 more minutes of playing wall ball, he came up to us again with a couple of his friends and took the ball, but this time, kicked it onto the roof of the school. it was the only good "wall ball" that was not already on the roof.

that was when i had had enough. i went over to the ball bin and grabbed one of the basketballs that was waaay overinflated and as he was walking away, laughing, i kicked it as hard as i could (which was pretty damn hard due to my 5 years of playing soccer) and i intended it to fly past him, scaring him. instead, it hit him square in the back of his head. i even cringed when it hit him. i just stood there with a dumb smile on my face and waited as he stormed up to me and expected him to knock me out and i knew he was twice my size, so i just kept the smile and waited. he then proceeded to open-hand slap me in the face. i'll admit he hit me pretty hard, but i was just laughing my ass off and not only my friends, but his friends as well joined in. by then, his head must have been hurting pretty bad and the added insult of both mine and his friends laughing at him made him finally break down into tears as he slowly retreated.

after that, the PE teacher had calmly walked up to me and saw the nice red hand print on my face and told me he saw the whole thing. he then said that he was going to turn a blind eye to the whole thing.

nobody even tried to mess with me the rest of the year and i made some new friends in the process:

well,
there is one incident though that i not so proud of in 8th grade.
i was in the locker room changing when the gay kid in the class decided he wanted to grab my ass after i pulled down my shorts. out of pure reaction, i turned around and swung my fist. i didn't even know who did it and didn't give myself time to think about it. i luckily ended up hitting him in the arm instead of the face, but he was on the ground crying. this happened right in front of the PE teacher's office and once again, he saw the whole thing. he took my side again, but he told me if i got into any more fights during the year, he would suspend me and have a chat with my parents. the kid came to school with a really nasty looking bruise on him arm where i hit him and i ended up apologizing to him, but also told him at the same time not to make any more moves on me.

out of the whole ordeal(s) i became a lot less shy and ended up getting my popularity that i always wanted in high school. i'll admit i wasn't one of the most popular, but i would say about a 7 on a scale of 10.

i have not ever been picked on much since then and i now solve my problems with words and if that does not work, a good lift off the ground by the shirt collar into a wall or a nice face-pinned-to-the-ground worked well throughout the rest of school. i only had 2 big conflicts during high school.


btw, i ended up hitting a growth spurt to 5'8" and lost 30lbs on top of that during summer break between 11th and 12th grade. i am only a little fat now

[whitrzac]

I read about 1/9 of the posts...



I went to a country school, as long as stitches weren't required anything(mostly) was fair game...


thats fine, as long as your not the tall skinny kid that just moved to the middle of ____ing nowhere.

Wow, a 12 year old with an eyebrow piercing, seems like a punk to me. Doesn't even apologize for starting it all. He's just going to be more hated after that interview.

[PBO]

Originally Posted by Cody.McP

Wow, a 12 year old with an eyebrow piercing, seems like a punk to me. Doesn't even apologize for starting it all

The area these kids come from is among the poorest & most under privileged in Sydney. Mt Druitt, Shalvey & St Mary's are tough areas...buses have stopped running there because they get robbed/stabbed/bashed, public transport is almost non existent, unemployment is about 20% compared to the 6% average...pretty bad place

The older kids in the area would call Ritchard a 'rat' because of his rats tail hair cut & piercing. Appropriate

[JERRY2KONE]

Yea that Richard kid looks like a little Hoodlum and obviously needs some dicipline in his life or he is going to end up in jail or dead because of his own attitude and character. I use to see a lot of kids like him in our juvenile system when I was one of them. Although I watched others closely and decided that the kind of life that I wanted for myself was much higher and still attainable in my teens. I changed my ways and steered clear of punks like him so as not to end up just like him.

In my years of education I have learned a few MOTOS' if you will that stuck with me over the years and also seemed to hold true for the most part.

The first was "Knowledge is power". If you go through your life being ignorant and uneducated your hopes of being anything more than an unemployed idiot were slim to none. Surround yourself with the smart kids and learn from them. Those are the kind of kids who end up like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet when they become adults.

The second one was about disapearing into your own environment. What I was told was to look at the kinds of people that I was surrounding myself with. If you hang out with Pot-heads, then that is more than likely what you will become. If you surround yourself with bully's then you will end up just like them. If you surround yourself with intelligent people you stand a fair chance of becoming much more than you ever expected. I found that for the post part this was true just by observing the various clicks in our schools, gangs, and social clubs.

If you want good things for yourself or your kids then surround yourself with the life you wish. The right kind of people, the right atmosphere goes a long way with what you learn and how you learn it. Speak with your kids as if you truly expect them to be successful, as it carries a lot of wieght with their own self esteem and confidence. Point out others who are going the wrong way in their lives and ask your kids what kind of life they wish to have as adults while refering them to imagine the wrong way to go about that task. They will learn what to do and what not to do with the examples you provide for them. Leadership by example is the strongest tool that I know of. It works. Most of all treat them with respect and humility and teach them to share that sentiment with others, and they will intern treat you with that same level of respect as they grow. This really is not rocket science, but we have to work at it if we expect anything good to come of our kids. They do absorb some things just by being with you, but you still have to explain things to them so they can begin to understand right from wrong and why it makes a difference to their lives.

This Richard kid obviously has not been privi to any of these tools of life.

[josh9mille]

I just watched an interview on the today show with the skinny punk kid. IMO he was lying through his teeth, he fits the bully image to a T. Even his on-air appology was not sincere, more of a joke, he is not sorry at all. You can tell the kid filming and the kid talking in the background were his friends, and they way he went up to the camera after it was over just shows he did this for fun. And who the heck lets thier 12yr old kid have facial piercings? Obviously some bad parenting going on here.

[TexasSP]

I could come up with a million excuses to be a little hoodlum myself, but I don't. Been rich, been poor, life goes on. If your looking you can always find an excuse or place to blame. People are responsible for their own actions.

I was bullied in junior high and early in 9th grade. I grew a little though and toughened the exterior and people started screwing with me less. I can remember in 9th grade standing face (actually he was shorter so it was more like my chest in his face) with a guy bullying my friend. That was the last time I ever put up with that crap.

The last time I got bullied at all was in high school in 10th grade. I went to use the coke machine and this huge black dude was standing there. He told me white boys had to pay to use the machine. I laughed and said yeah, no joke, it costs 50 cents. He stood up in my way and threatened me trying to get me to pay him. At this point I was too high to really care anymore. I laughed, told him go for it, then proceeded to push him aside with my body and get my drink. He ended up walking off mumbling something along the lines of motherf@#king white b$%ch and left me alone.

I was just as poor if not poorer than he was at the time. In fact he had brand new designer shoes/clothes/etc on and I was wearing worn out second hand clothes. I lived with my mom who was single and struggling. Life was in the dumps, but I chose not to take it out on others. So what's the excuse there?

[pinkpanda3310]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

So what's the excuse there?

It's all in the parenting. If you were the bully in the video what would your mum say? Have a go at a you for being a bully or demand an apology from the victim? I know what would've happened to me.

[DwightSchrute]

i had a kid spit on me when i was in 8th grade.

apparently, the class asswipe thought it would be funny to see if i had the balls to hit him after he launched a lugi in my direction.

i kicked him in the face and i got expelled for the rest of the year and my parents got a $3500 dental bill for knocking 3 of his teeth out.

i remember my mom screaming at me, but my dad thought it was funny as hell.



i think the fat kid in the video should get a medal. nobody should have to put up with that kinda bullshit.

[Romster]

I have been picked on to by a bully.
When it finally goes to point to standing up for yourself when enough is enough. You put him in the spot then he finally realizes not too f!!?K w/U.

[Romster]

In the video after body slamming him I would of kicked him the head.