Sick of going through diff's on my ERBE !!!

Here's what I sent to the moderator....

Please help me (US!) then, why hasn't Traxxas come along to provide us with a more beefy diff upgrade. Clearly this is a major topic which seems to come up again and again. Why isn't Traxxas addressing this?

I feel so ashamed that Traxxas will not offer any suggestions aside from offering the following suggestions:

1. go 4S or 5S and stay with the handing;
2. go nitro and stay with the handling;
3. go with the other vehicle and be unsatisfied with the handling.

Really? Is Traxxas working on something to address or provide a more "beefy" option for those of us who signed on the 6S experience. I will be moving down to 3S and if things are going well (aka. i did not break) then I will move to 4s for a run or two. But really, I feel ripped off with this purchase. I really do, its not designed for 6s, it really isn't. My clutch is setup as per the manual, if not a tad less (it will barely wheely) and i'm running the summit shafts etc which have yielded much better results than the Traxxas CVD's. Anyhow, that's not really the problem I'm having.

Whichever path you choose, it's not a great idea to pop back onto a forum after 4½ months and immediately start what some would consider trolling and spreading lies -or at best half-truths.

I'm not a liar, if I did state a lie on my post, then please prove me wrong. I will apologize otherwise. All I'm looking for is for honest advise and help, no offense but your advise (and not posted) is rather trivial.

Is Traxxas looking into addressing its customers out with a strengthened pinion and ring as other companies have or will I need to move to the other side? I'd like to stay but I'm looking for someone from the "inside" to offer a helping hand. Is Traxxas going to help "us" and many of us out there in the near future?

[JERRY2KONE]

Seems to me that you answered your own question there. Your friends have the Savage Flux and seem to have endless playtime and half decent handling. I get it you wanted to do womething different and maybe out run them, but it is just not working out that way now is it. Just do what you know you should have in the first place and move over to the Savage Flux and be done with it. Sell off your ERBE and wash your hands of all the diff problems. The only real transformation has been to convert teh LST2 diffs to fit your truck. Anything else is just going to give you headaches and keep you tooling on your toy. Screw Traxxas for being bad sports about complaints and dealing with custormer misgivings. I doubt that this is ever going to change. To run a forum where you can not speak the truth and be real is just kind of stupid if you ask me. Why even have a forum if your are not going to take criticisum and work on fixing the issues. Just like Maxamps they just don't want to hear the truth. Good luck and have some fun with whatever choice you make.

[j.f.s]

My suggestion: get a truggy and be done with it. I gave up on my ERBE and it is now my kids toy. I got me an MBX6T and converted it to a BL setup. Even though I've tried to destroy something I haven't. Only thing that I've managed to brake was a plastic spur but that was due to my own error for using a motor screw that was too short.

Originally Posted by j.f.s

My suggestion: get a truggy and be done with it. I gave up on my ERBE and it is now my kids toy. I got me an MBX6T and converted it to a BL setup. Even though I've tried to destroy something I haven't. Only thing that I've managed to brake was a plastic spur but that was due to my own error for using a motor screw that was too short.

Advice taken, I was able to get a 1yr old 8ight t 2.0 with the electric conversion for $250. Its been used for 1yr and in immaculate shape, no slop, very little wear etc etc. Now, I'm going to be running my MMM along with the neu 2200kv motor (have spare).

Questions:

- Is there a "must do" mod for this truggy to increase durability?
- What is the best bang for buck servo I should buy?
- Will the buggy body fit on the 2.0 t frame?
- Can I use my 3.2 rulux with 1/2 " off set along with mounted badlands mounted on them? Or should I stick to the truggy tire/wheel combo?

[j.f.s]

Congrats on your new toy!

- Is there a "must do" mod for this truggy to increase durability? Not familiar with the Losi but my guess would be shim the diffs! That's the one thing I know that's recommended for the 6T. Also get the DE Racing skids! http://www.deracing.net/store/index....ory&path=92_96
- What is the best bang for buck servo I should buy? I'm using a Savox 1256TG. It's in the range. There are several others in that price range that will fit your needs.
- Will the buggy body fit on the 2.0 t frame? No idea really :)
- Can I use my 3.2 rulux with 1/2 " off set along with mounted badlands mounted on them? Or should I stick to the truggy tire/wheel combo? You can but AFAIK all truggies already are ½" off set and use 0 off set wheels. I've tried my Rulux ½" off set on my 6T and it looks really weird.

I use both truggy wheels and Losi Super Bolt-Ons (40 series wheel). I really like the Super Bolt-Ons for bashing. Tons of grip and even though they're a 40 series tire they aren't super heavy. I can weigh both my truggy wheels and the Super Bolt-Ons if you're interested.

[crazyjr]

Probably dealt with in PM's, But have you tryed the torque control? I just started usint it in my T4 associated with a MM/4600 combo, went from wheelie happy to barely lifting the wheels and still accelerating quickly

Originally Posted by j.f.s

Congrats on your new toy!

- Is there a "must do" mod for this truggy to increase durability? Not familiar with the Losi but my guess would be shim the diffs! That's the one thing I know that's recommended for the 6T. Also get the DE Racing skids! http://www.deracing.net/store/index....ory&path=92_96
- What is the best bang for buck servo I should buy? I'm using a Savox 1256TG. It's in the range. There are several others in that price range that will fit your needs.
- Will the buggy body fit on the 2.0 t frame? No idea really :)
- Can I use my 3.2 rulux with 1/2 " off set along with mounted badlands mounted on them? Or should I stick to the truggy tire/wheel combo? You can but AFAIK all truggies already are ½" off set and use 0 off set wheels. I've tried my Rulux ½" off set on my 6T and it looks really weird.

I use both truggy wheels and Losi Super Bolt-Ons (40 series wheel). I really like the Super Bolt-Ons for bashing. Tons of grip and even though they're a 40 series tire they aren't super heavy. I can weigh both my truggy wheels and the Super Bolt-Ons if you're interested.

It looks like the 8ight 2.0 t E uses plastic diff cases and cups, this is where I get nervous. Should I be?

As for the servo's, I know Savox essentially is Align servos (align just rebrands them....I fly heli's too and been happy with their larger servos). In which case, which Align (savox) is it? DS610, DS620 or DS650 the reason is, I have them mounted on my Trex 550 fbl. I can swap back and forth for now until i find the best solution. WOuld be good to use this line, since the parts would be interchangeable with my heli. I like these servos, they've been hassle free for me (except the smaller 410).

Wow, 40 series tires on your truggy! Crazy, no issues with bent dog bones or drive shafts? ARe you running 4s or higher? Thanks so much for your support, I went to the track and almost everyone voiced the same concerns that you did previously. You have been steering me in the right direction where on the Trx website.....ughhh, I don't want to talk about it, spent waay too much money on my erbe. Still like it, but it will only see 3s. I refuse to put more money into that thing.

[j.f.s]

The 6T also has plastic cases for the diffs and housings. Quite thick plastic I might add. Haven't seen any issues there as of yet and honestly don't expect to either. I have managed to slightly crack the rear shock tower due to bad landings while trying to do back flips on the track. This also caused 4 screws to bend. Nothing else has broken, bent or in any way deformed. It just keeps going and going. :)

Those 40 series has been working flawlessly. No bent dog bones or any other issue in the drive line. Using 5s and 4s :)

The servo is the 1256TG: http://www.savoxusa.com/Savox_SC1256...avsc1256tg.htm I see the price tag fell out from my previous post. Amain has them for about $80.

[noir522]

I have some 1/8 aluminum rc monster hybrid diffs for sale. Design specifically for the revo - pm me if interested

[swiftneed]

hey u might wanna try a mbx6t or an xrayxt8 I have seen some at some pretty decent prices if you sell the revo trade up they are beefier in everway

[scarletboa]

Originally Posted by swiftneed

hey u might wanna try a mbx6t or an xrayxt8 I have seen some at some pretty decent prices if you sell the revo trade up they are beefier in everway

I have a brushless converted team xray xt8 roller that I'd be willing to part with. It only needs the electronics and a battery tray. It is the 2008 version and I wouldn't mind trading it for an e-revo

[JThiessen]

The 8T really doesn't need anything for strength. We bash ours hard, and the only thing that I've seen so far is the front tie rods popping off the ball joint at the front carrier. My Muggy has suffered continual breakage of the front carriers, so I haven't tried to fix the rod popping off - its probably keeping us from breaking them.

There are some nicer aftermarket chassis braces available (kings head, etc). Not sure if they are required - I had to get one to accomodate the electric conversion - but that may have been due to Tekno's layout (it has the Tekno chassis).

The diffs and cases are fine from the factory. I've run a 1520 on 6S in mine, and no issues.

Buggy body will not fit "right" - but if you like how it fits, then use it....

There are some carbon fiber items to lighten them up - I have a set, but have never installed them yet. Just haven't seen the need so far.

My highly upgraded Revo (even with RCm AL cases) has sat on the shelf since I bought my first truggy. My kids will likely have to put it in my Estate Sale someday.....

Originally Posted by JThiessen

The 8T really doesn't need anything for strength. We bash ours hard, and the only thing that I've seen so far is the front tie rods popping off the ball joint at the front carrier. My Muggy has suffered continual breakage of the front carriers, so I haven't tried to fix the rod popping off - its probably keeping us from breaking them.

There are some nicer aftermarket chassis braces available (kings head, etc). Not sure if they are required - I had to get one to accomodate the electric conversion - but that may have been due to Tekno's layout (it has the Tekno chassis).

The diffs and cases are fine from the factory. I've run a 1520 on 6S in mine, and no issues.

Buggy body will not fit "right" - but if you like how it fits, then use it....

There are some carbon fiber items to lighten them up - I have a set, but have never installed them yet. Just haven't seen the need so far.

My highly upgraded Revo (even with RCm AL cases) has sat on the shelf since I bought my first truggy. My kids will likely have to put it in my Estate Sale someday.....

Awesome feedback, thank you! I just got back from doing some bashing with my friends and the revo was holding up until I wanted to show some of the guys what 6s is like. Diff's gone again, granted it was 4 pack in. But still...

So would you say that running my 8T on 6S (have a lot of these from heli) would be okay? I'm honestly just plain paranoid of doing any jumps etc on 6s. Sick of going through diffs etc.

Out of curiosity, why did you end up shelving your revo? Do you ever miss it? and how do you find bashing your 8T compared to the revo? Any drawbacks?

I'm putting in the electronics from my broken down revo and into my 8T tomorrow...can't wait to try her out for the first time. Better not go through any diffs :)

[JThiessen]

I shelved the Revo because I was sick of having to stop at the LHS on the way home to buy shafts, diffs, arms, etc.,
Dont really miss it except for the nostalgia - it was one of the first converted Revo's on here, and I "cut my teeth" on brushless with it. Anyone else remember the days of Fiego's and MGM controllers??? Whats a BEC?????

You should be able to run 6S as much as you want on the 8T. Obviously, there are limitations to everything, you are your own warranty station!

The 8T handles better. It does not do wheelies (if its correctly set up). Its probably not going to be as fast, or give you the jaw dropping punch that you get from a ERBE or Flux, but you will out run the them with the 8T. It doesn't have the ground clearance for bashing that the Revo can give - but you will find yourself bashing a little differently with it. If you want it to run more like a Revo - change the diff fluid, put some MT's on it, and call it a modern day Muggy.

ps. Save up for a slipperential for it. I personally think they are important for saving diff's - I have them in all of my buggy's/truggy's.

Wow...just wow!! My friends and I went out to a bmx track with a lot of "kicker" jumps and all I can say is wow!! I love the way the 8T handles, much better than my revo. But the most important this is the durability. I was launching this thing off these kicker jumps and it kept coming back for more. I have no spares yet, so i was somewhat tentative at first, but that "please don't break" fear was quickly subsided and on the back shelf. Like my revo, I'm going to see it. I really wish I would have moved on earlier and taken the advice offered here. Thanks so much! I'm so glad I went with the truggy, first time I ever went out and went through all my lipos (5) and didn't have any problems. Geeez, all that money i spent on the erbe....anyhow, I'm glad to be moving on.

Thanks to you all for your support and advice, you saved me a ton more $$$, time and frustration. I had a great day today and I thank you all for your advice!

Cheers,

-FUNBOSS