Any use for Lehner Basic XL motors? Rarely used...

[Finnster]

I've been wondering why the Lehner Basic XL series motors have seemingly fallen out of use. Pretty much the current thinking is to go w/ a Feigao/Wanderer XL motor or go right to a Neu/LMT. The Basic series sits in the middle, and I don't see anyone using them anymore. Currently Mike only has one model even for sale (down from ~3 IIRC.) Why?

The big cons I can think of:

Too pricey for a "budget" motor ($160 vs $90 for Feigao)
1/8" shafts

How do these motors really stack up? I would think they are more eff than the Feigao motors, prob run cooler, but is it not enough to offset their nearly 2x price? Do these motors have a place in large scale conversions today?

[BrianG]

They are probably more comparable to a Feigao "S" or "L" size-wise. And you can't forget the Mamba Max motors (which Mike doesn't even have listed in the store), which seem to work quite well for the price.

[squeeforever]

I ran a XL3100 in my E-Maxx and pushed it to over 50mph on only 12 cells. I will probably get a XXL motor to try out on my Evo V3.3.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by squeeforever

I ran a XL3100 in my E-Maxx and pushed it to over 50mph on only 12 cells. I will probably get a XXL motor to try out on my Evo V3.3.

You are one of the few I can recall using this motor here. What were your impressions? Looking at the specs on the Lehner site, it seems that the Xls put out quite a bit less torque than a 1940.

Considering the ease at which I pull the front wheels up w/ an 8XL, this may not be a bad thing (if looking at a 2400 or even 2000.) Main considerations would be heat generated of course, and 40+ mph on 4S.

[squeeforever]

On 4S, I would go with the 2400, but I would choose a XXL over the XL. The XL was a wheelie monster! It would nearly do a backflip from a standstill. A couple times it landed on the front bumper. Just a little more and it would have done one sitting still. :p It was a good motor, but ran kinda hot. That is only to be expected with the hot setup I was running...

[Finnster]

Was just about to edit my post after looking up the XXLs. The XLs say max 1300W, which is a bit low for a MT. 2000W on the XXLs would be better. Only draw back would be the 4mm shaft, but not a gamekiller. Also, there seems be be a big gap from the 1800kv then to the 3000kv. They do look pretty promising tho.

I'm guessing you are looking at the 1800kv? Would think the 3000 may run a touch warm, maybe..

[captain harlock]

Promod once used one( I think the XL1600) in one of his Maxxes with success( 50+mph with 6s) and it got a bit hot, though.

[Serum]

I've got an XL2400, on 3S it runs like a champ.. one of the Lightest setups i know.

Too bad it get's relative hot..

I've often wondered about the XXL can Basic motors. I like the XXLs specs. I'm sure that it is at least as good as a Feigao, but should be better. Do all of the XXL motors come with the wires, rather than the plugs on the back?

Is the 1800kv rating under load?

Is this a hijack?

I'm really curious about these motors.

[squeeforever]

The XXL motors do unfortunately come with the wires instead of plugs, but its not biggy...The XXL's are rated under load as well.

[jhautz]

I am going to try an XXL1800 in my Matrix buggy. Mike has one ordered for me, but knowing the speed of Lehners service lately, who knows when it will come in. I looked at the basic XXL as nice relatively light motor that should have more than enough power for a lighter weight 1/8 vehicle.

I tried a XL4200 on 3s once in a rustler. TONS of power for a truck that size. Wound up selling the motor on Ebay cuz I couldn't find a good application for it. I can see the XL2400 being a good motor for a 6-7 lb vehicle. Just a little to small for a maxx or 1/8.

Hopefully the XXL will fill that gap. I'll let you guys know how it does when I get it.

jhautz,

I'm glad that someone bit the bullet and has one coming. The 1800kv will be perfect for a 4S or even maybe a 5S setup. Anyway, what I am most curious about is whether the Basic will run significantlly cooler than the Feigaos? For me, the efficiency isn't really a direct issue. I like the performance of my 7 and 8XLs. What I don't like is the heat.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by AAngel

jhautz,

I'm glad that someone bit the bullet and has one coming. The 1800kv will be perfect for a 4S or even maybe a 5S setup. Anyway, what I am most curious about is whether the Basic will run significantlly cooler than the Feigaos? For me, the efficiency isn't really a direct issue. I like the performance of my 7 and 8XLs. What I don't like is the heat.

ditto

[Serum]

They don't use segmented magnets, so the partial load will get them as hot as a feigao/wanderer.

[squeeforever]

Serum, I don't think they will get as hot since they are more efficient.