Project: Savage Flux 5T

[thzero]

I think 8mm is ok, I haven't bent any axles yet. But the Savage axle is just a damn stupid design that introduces a huge weak point at the threads. They needed to have gone standard buggy/truggy style with the axles.

As for the ProLines I think it was two-fold. First, soft material used and poor design by ProLine as their attempts to lighten the hub just made it weak. But yes I agree that the pin diameter is too small and the pin is frankly too short so there is very little area to spread the force on and that was the second part of the issue. The 24mm hex adapters from HPI, although suffering from the poor axle design, are much beefier with a better design. I did run these for a bit, before breaking another axle, and the hubs did hold up.

I do like the Baja 24mm hex adapters as, like most buggy/truggy, its a pin through design with a thick pin so there is a fair amount of area to transfer the force through.

If I could get some 17mm to 24mm adapters I would probably switch to truggy arms myself. My only thought of the truggy arms would be that they are made for racing so will be stiffer, which means they may break more often under extreme bashing than the more flexible Savage arms. I may do this for my nitro/brushless transformer Savage... haven't decided; debating between that and doing a straight axle (using twin-force axles) based MT.

I've been following your LST thread, looks promising.

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Given your experience with std savvy hex adapter failures, and your mod to allow baja adapter I wonder what you think about having 8mm axles in a savage?

Looks like the small stock hpi pin casue the failures on the hex adapters. Just not enough material and the slot wanted to cam off the pin the whole time it was under load.

I see the setup you have now as much better, as long as the xl axles will survive.

I plan to use an 8mm truggy style setup, and hope it will last better under power.

Any thoughts on this?