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08.31.2007, 10:13 AM

Mike, good to hear that they had your help in setting up the truggy. Also it appears that Dan is also starting to get a pretty good following at rctech, and also does very nice work.


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08.31.2007, 11:01 AM

How many people will actually buy a Tekin R1MT after this long wait. If the price of the R1 that are posted in Tower and Horizon are true, just imagine how much the R1MT will be. It is also strange that Tekin came out with a mini system just like CC's and they anonced the MT right about the same time as the MMM. Like I said in the MMM thread, I know the manufacturer that will be making the Much More BL ESC and I think that CC and Tekin basically uses the same source (factory) to make their products, but Tekin might be more technical about things since they have an awesome reputation to keep up with their race winning Brushed ESC.
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Uncharter Ground - 08.31.2007, 12:09 PM

Someone just informed me of this discussion and I thought I would chime in.
The Brushless electric set ups we are putting in our 1/8th scales and Trucks are all in uncharted territory. We are experiencing amp draw and drive train pressures in race and bash conditions that have never been experienced before.
I regularly talk with Jim Cambell about the conditions we are seeing and things we are experiencing on the track in race conditions. I am sure Mike has also. I also have talked with NOVAK and CC.
These electronics especially with the Neu motors and 4S batteries have never seen this type of abuse. The run times with the Lipos are incredible. The Amp draw of the system is more then most telemetry systems will handle.
And I see from reading this that some want even more!! They want electronics that handle 5S or 6S packs. That power will be almost unuseable except for all out high speed runs.
With my EH7 with a Neu 1512 1.5D/F and a 6000 4S set up. I can easily run for 15 min in race conditions. I see motor temps in the 170's and ESC temps at about 150. Even the wires and connectors have to be beefed up to handle the loads.
It is an exciting time. We are all impatient... every time I talk or email a manufacturer, the first thing I tell them is HURRY UP!!!
If you already have a set up running... share what you are experiencing. The good and the bad. I know the manufactures are reading all these discussions and hopefully using some of the info in their development and fellow racers will benefit from it too.
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08.31.2007, 12:12 PM

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Someone just informed me of this discussion and I thought I would chime in.
The Brushless electric set ups we are putting in our 1/8th scales and Trucks are all in uncharted territory. We are experiencing amp draw and drive train pressures in race and bash conditions that have never been experienced before.
I regularly talk with Jim Cambell about the conditions we are seeing and things we are experiencing on the track in race conditions. I am sure Mike has also. I also have talked with NOVAK and CC.
These electronics especially with the Neu motors and 4S batteries have never seen this type of abuse. The run times with the Lipos are incredible. The Amp draw of the system is more then most telemetry systems will handle.
And I see from reading this that some want even more!! They want electronics that handle 5S or 6S packs. That power will be almost unuseable except for all out high speed runs.
With my EH7 with a Neu 1512 1.5D/F and a 6000 4S set up. I can easily run for 15 min in race conditions. I see motor temps in the 170's and ESC temps at about 150. Even the wires and connectors have to be beefed up to handle the loads.
It is an exciting time. We are all impatient... every time I talk or email a manufacturer, the first thing I tell them is HURRY UP!!!
If you already have a set up running... share what you are experiencing. The good and the bad. I know the manufactures are reading all these discussions and hopefully using some of the info in their development and fellow racers will benefit from it too.
Dan
Well said - this is a great time for the brushless/lipo industry! I bet we'll continue seeing some incredible breakthroughs over the next few years. It's awesome!
   
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08.31.2007, 12:17 PM

Thank you,
I think it is a great time for the RC Industry. I am having more fun now than I have had in years!!! I am busier than I have ever been between my full time job and my RC Business and loving every minute of it!!!

I can't wait to see what happens at my track this winter. I run Washtenaw RC Raceway in Ann Arbor, MI. Last season we averaged 210 entries a race with about 10 or 12 different designs of Brushless 1/8th scales. This year I excpect that to double or even triple.

It is very exciting to be on the starting edge of the next big thing in RC.
   
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08.31.2007, 12:22 PM

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I think it is a great time for the RC Industry. I am having more fun now than I have had in years!!! I am busier than I have ever been between my full time job and my RC Business and loving every minute of it!!!

I can't wait to see what happens at my track this winter. I run Washtenaw RC Raceway in Ann Arbor, MI. Last season we averaged 210 entries a race with about 10 or 12 different designs of Brushless 1/8th scales. This year I excpect that to double or even triple.

It is very exciting to be on the starting edge of the next big thing in RC.

That's awesome and I couldn't agree with you more about this being the next big thing. I think it will actually reach a whole new segment of the population.
   
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08.31.2007, 12:29 PM

The main reason people like to see a ESC handle 6S, 12S and even 15S lipos is to have the option of either running higher AMP draws or less AMP draws. I have my share of ESC and I ran my BBP truck with 10S lipos and it ran great. The wires were warm, the motor was around 160 and the ESC was warm and so was the lipos. Now with the batteries in parallel, the wires were hotter then with the packs in series. Also, the reason to have a ESC handle higher cell counts is to keep the ESC safe from voltage spikes. I would feel better if the ESC could handle 12S, but I only ran 6S. Like my Schulze 40.160 on 5, 10 and 12S set up was just warm to the touch. I heard people running that thing up 60 volts and it does arm at 60 volts. Higher voltage less AMPs and from what I have seen less heat then with the lower voltage set ups.
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