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12.02.2007, 10:38 AM

They use the same diffs as what UE calls 8 spiders, the ones with the aluminum houses and the 6 little spider gears.
   
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OK thank you Serum for the diff, you'are right, it's a Spyder diffs, and it' bulletproof, but you not tell me why you said that clutchbell is unecesary on a brushless....
The main reason why i want a clutchbell, is when i land a big jump, i want that the clutch (and not the motor) take the big "spin" of the center diff when the wheel touch the ground.
When you hit the brake in the air to "nose down" the buggy, the wheel stop to turn, and when the buggy hit the ground, the wheel re-start to spin and give a big "hit" to the motor, so with a clutchbell, you eliminate this problems.

My goal is to make it very reliable.
And if i don't like the clutchbell system, i'll simply re-instal the right motor mount for the buggy and return to a standard pinion/spur setup.
And more easy, the tekno Electri-clutch have a 5mm shaft where the clutchbell bearing, so i'll can leave this in place and simply put the standard pinion on the tekno elektri-clutch adapter.
   
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OK thank you Serum for the diff, you'are right, it's a Spyder diffs, and it' bulletproof, but you not tell me why you said that clutchbell is unecesary on a brushless....
The main reason why i want a clutchbell, is when i land a big jump, i want that the clutch (and not the motor) take the big "spin" of the center diff when the wheel touch the ground.
When you hit the brake in the air to "nose down" the buggy, the wheel stop to turn, and when the buggy hit the ground, the wheel re-start to spin and give a big "hit" to the motor, so with a clutchbell, you eliminate this problems.

My goal is to make it very reliable.
And if i don't like the clutchbell system, i'll simply re-instal the right motor mount for the buggy and return to a standard pinion/spur setup.
And more easy, the tekno Electri-clutch have a 5mm shaft where the clutchbell bearing, so i'll can leave this in place and simply put the standard pinion on the tekno elektri-clutch adapter.
The clutch increases the overall rotating mass of parts that the motor will have to turn...and therefore places additional strain on your motor. My preference is to keep my setups as simple as possible...Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS)...just another American slang term for you to put in your toolbox...
   
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The clutch increases the overall rotating mass of parts that the motor will have to turn...and therefore places additional strain on your motor
You're right, but please, the little extra "strain and rotating mass" of a clutchbell setup, on a Neu 1515 motor, who normally can push a 13lbs++ monster truck over 50m/h, will not (this is what i think, correct me if i'am wrong) place a big "stress" on the motor on this little 7.5 lbs 1/8 scale buggy

+++++I don't have to buy the RCM revo motor mount, i'll simply use my RCM Mugen motor mount, and place it just behind the stock center diff mount.

I just try it and it work like a charm

Now i must absolutly take the Mugen MBX5R.....sorry RC8another time for you!!!
   
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Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS)...
I don't know what's this mean, i'am married with 3 kids
   
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They use the same diffs as what UE calls 8 spiders, the ones with the aluminum houses and the 6 little spider gears.
Thought that the hyper 8.5 only had the 6 gear diff in the center and had std diffs in the front and reas cases?

Not to step on your toes Serum, but the clutch setup in the tekno revo works well. I have quite a bit of time on mine now and can only find one fault. It does get hot on low speed running, right at the speed that the clutch is still slipping. For heavy bashing it works like a charm, and the tekno guys had good success with racing too.

Now I think that mike's center diff with the slipper built in would be the best bet for a basher. Put some decently heavy fluid in it and use motor brakes, but have the benefit of the slipper for hard landings, etc.

I do like the mech. brakes on my tekno revo. They work very well and my quark/aveox setup stays cool too! Mybe mech brakes and the centerdiff/slipper would be the best bet. I love reverse, so I am torn between the two!
   
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12.02.2007, 03:17 PM

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It does get hot on low speed running, right at the speed that the clutch is still slipping
Hey James, do you use the clutch shoes mount in leading postion, or you use it in "normal" position?

When my buggy will be done, i'll try it without the spring, so it'll suppose to engage at verrrrrrrrrrry low rpm and not supose tu overheat
   
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