Buggy Weight?

My 8 weighs in at between 8.5 and 9 lbs. w/batts. installed as well. I'm sure my 1515 and RCproduct designs integrated tray make up the majority of the extra lb. Certainly still raceable and competitive at a club level but between the weight and my driving, not so successful on technical tracks against expert drivers. The biggest issue with the extra weight is increasing spring rates and dampening to properly compensate for the extra load and of coarse whether or not your motor has enough torque to overcome it. In the case of my 1515/1y, no problem; couldn't comment on the Novak, though.

Thanks for the replies.
I did some math and figured out each one of my two battery boxes weight around 1/4 lb, so I figure I might be able to reduce their combined weight around 1/8 to 1/4 lb, there are a few other smaller things I am going to cut back on that should allow me to save a total (including the batt boxes) of around .5 lbs, I guess I have some work to do when I get off work tonight.

As for the torque of a heavier buggy, that shouldn't be an issue I have read the HV4.5 has to much torque, so as long as I can keep my temps down, that should be ok.

Here is another question for buggy owners:
do the spoke rims weight more then the dish rims? I ask because the spokes on these rims seem pretty thick, and I know my dish rims from my 1/10 stadium are very thin material.