MMM availibility date dropped!

[TexasSP]

Ditto on vista.

A few of you guys really are taking this overboard, and it is evident to me that you have never tried to build a single product from parts sourced from multiple manufacturers. It isn't as simple as just giving the company trouble, if parts aren't available they aren't available. Pushing them may speed the process, but it doesn't change the fact that there is a holdup.

Well put, I just went through the same thing last year doing spec work and putting new controls systems on some of our machines for a new plant. There is so much with programming and working out little things that it can drag out easily. Often one change here necessitates another change somewhere else and it becomes a vicious cycle. Then having to deal with sales people making promises for machines to licensees that I haven't even finished testing and so on. It was a rough time, and as much as you want to put out preliminary dates and keep on schedule, many things just happen that are out of anyones control. So until someone comes up with a magic wand it will always be this way.

In reality the only mistake CC has made is the fact that they released info too early which they have obviously learned from. The good thing of this all is that the ESC will be released, will be an excellent product, and backed by some of the best support in the business.

So if your sitting around holding your breath waiting, STOP! Breathe and go on with life, then the next thing you know, it will be released.

[ssspconcepts]

I am not going to dig up all CC's quotes...but there are a lot of inconsistencies. Last I knew they were waiting for injected molded parts. My issue isn't with their timeliness to market...it is with the inconsistent manner in which they have provided information to the buyers.

As a contractor, I manage parts/pieces of some very unique gov't programs, which involve providing deliverables to specific clients...and we depend on all sorts of sub contractors. Fundamentally we are sort of an integration facilitator--it's worth noting that we are a small business. So believe me, I understand the challenges of making milestones and deadlines...but rarely (very rarely) do we miss milestones/deadlines-especially when they are indigenous to our area of specialization. If we have support subcontractors (e.g., like the folks injection molding parts) that can't make their milestones we find other alternatives. This often translates into increased costs to the client, but they are generally happy to pay. And one practice we never engage in is telling the client that "we are going to make the deadline of X..we are just waiting for Y" --especially when there is something more going on behind the scenes than just waiting for "Y."

This is the point my earlier post was attempting to make.

Some of you may not agree--but this is my opinion and that is the purpose of forums--to share knowledge and express opinions.