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05.13.2008, 04:42 AM

imo, this isn`t a fair comparison...
the 1512 is 60mm long, and thus it`s absolutely natural to have more torque than the 50mm medusa one [since the design is similar]...

a fair comparison would be between the 1512/2.5d [2050kv,60mm long] and the medusa 36-60-2000v2...
i know that many members [including buzzsaw] already know that, but i am just merely trying to make a point for those who haven`t realized that the particular/present comparison refers to motors of different length/size [not just different 'brand'].

just my 0.02...
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05.13.2008, 06:33 AM

My friend will convert his HB Lightning 10 truggy using Medusa 50 mm. I think I will try his motor and than decide if I need 60mm can.


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05.13.2008, 03:10 PM

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imo, this isn`t a fair comparison...
the 1512 is 60mm long, and thus it`s absolutely natural to have more torque than the 50mm medusa one [since the design is similar]...

a fair comparison would be between the 1512/2.5d [2050kv,60mm long] and the medusa 36-60-2000v2...
i know that many members [including buzzsaw] already know that, but i am just merely trying to make a point for those who haven`t realized that the particular/present comparison refers to motors of different length/size [not just different 'brand'].

just my 0.02...
Ya I hope no one was confused that these two motors were the same size.

Is it a fair comparison, absolutly not, the Medusa was a huge underdog. It is a valid comparison though, since both motors were used in the same vehicle with approprite gearing to attain nearly identicle speeds.

What it was intended to show is that the 36-50 is a capable motor. Keeping up with a 10mm longer, $140 more expensive motor and not getting scorching hot is a testament to this.

What I wasn't expecting was the Neu to produce so much torque on the tall gears I had to run (24t pinion) I was honestly expecting the Neu to be more sluggish due to the gearing.

I'm a relative newb when it comes to surface vehicle power systems, but have been running nothing but brushless motors in planes and helis for around 5-7yrs.
   
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05.13.2008, 03:28 PM

[QUOTE=Buzzsaw46;172399]Ya I hope no one was confused that these two motors were the same size.

Is it a fair comparison, absolutly not, the Medusa was a huge underdog. It is a valid comparison though, since both motors were used in the same vehicle with approprite gearing to attain nearly identicle speeds.

What it was intended to show is that the 36-50 is a capable motor. Keeping up with a 10mm longer, $140 more expensive motor and not getting scorching hot is a testament to this.

What I wasn't expecting was the Neu to produce so much torque on the tall gears I had to run (24t pinion) I was honestly expecting the Neu to be more sluggish due to the gearing.

I'm a relative newb when it comes to surface vehicle power systems, but have been running nothing but brushless motors in planes and helis for around 5-7yrs.[/QUOTE]

Same here... planes, helis, FE boats, and now 1/8th scale conversions..


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05.13.2008, 03:37 PM

agreed...!

just a side-note... in SOME cases, shorter gearing [larger pinion/smaller spur] can produce more torque... that will depend on the motor torque constant [torque/current] AND [especially that] batteries... i know it sounds stupid, but it does happen [under conditions]...
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