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06.07.2008, 06:23 PM

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OK, well 200A and single layer FET board would be REALLY BIG. It would take about 108 FETs to do 200A reliably (same number of FETs as the Phoenix-110HV.) or about 2.5" square with 6x5mm FETs (about 6 sq in of board.)

What I'm working on now is the same footprint as the MMM -- but with 72 HV FETs (36 per side) and stackable. Would be good for about 130-150A in single layer, 225A or so in double layer using our newest FETs. (If we can drive that many of them without creating too many issues.)

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Yeah, I didn't think it would be easy or small or even practical. It was a "wish list" after all, not an "easy wish list".

TBH, the 200A+ and 20s capability is a tad overkill for most setups (maybe the 5th scales). But it sure would be neat to use an ESC like that in an e-bike or something.

And about "robbing" the parts, I was referring more to taking what already works and has been tried and true (like the MM brains) and experimenting with the power section. Just an idle thought. I know what it's like to have something you design be stolen, but it was not my bread-n-butter so it didn't matter so much.
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Yeah, I didn't think it would be easy or small or even practical. It was a "wish list" after all, not an "easy wish list".

TBH, the 200A+ and 20s capability is a tad overkill for most setups (maybe the 5th scales). But it sure would be neat to use an ESC like that in an e-bike or something.

And about "robbing" the parts, I was referring more to taking what already works and has been tried and true (like the MM brains) and experimenting with the power section. Just an idle thought. I know what it's like to have something you design be stolen, but it was not my bread-n-butter so it didn't matter so much.
Well, what I was talking about above was for a 12S design, not 20S. We do have the SHV controller which is good for 20S, but it gets very expensive very quickly to do 20S.

The SHV-250 is 20S, 250A and a BIG footprint (close to 3"x6")

And I'm not kidding about robbing the brain boards -- no zombies here! I don't even like the thought of robbing a brain board 'cause they are soldered down on the power board as a hybrid, and it would really difficult to remove without damaging / destroying it.

I'll be changing the MMM control board design to take it from 26V maximum usable voltage to 54V maximum usable for the MMMM (or 4xM? Mega MAX? M-quad? B.F.E.S.C.?)


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Well, what I was talking about above was for a 12S design, not 20S. We do have the SHV controller which is good for 20S, but it gets very expensive very quickly to do 20S.

The SHV-250 is 20S, 250A and a BIG footprint (close to 3"x6")

And I'm not kidding about robbing the brain boards -- no zombies here! I don't even like the thought of robbing a brain board 'cause they are soldered down on the power board as a hybrid, and it would really difficult to remove without damaging / destroying it.

I'll be changing the MMM control board design to take it from 26V maximum usable voltage to 54V maximum usable for the MMMM (or 4xM? Mega MAX? M-quad? B.F.E.S.C.?)
That one has my vote!
   
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That one has my vote!
B.F.E.S.C -- has a nice ring.


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B.F.E.S.C -- has a nice ring.
One of our power supply guys here loves the term BFC. Of course, that's usually just something in the 10's of uF in a 270VDC system.
   
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B.F.E.S.C -- has a nice ring.
I like M^3. The cubed difficulty of the design the bigger they get.
   
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