CC/Neu 2200kv Combo Temps/Review!

[brushlessboy16]

I would gear down, the higher c lipos would also help. 165 for the motor is a definite no-no

Gearing down seems like it will be better all the way around

[rrgirgis]

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16

I would gear down, the higher c lipos would also help. 165 for the motor is a definite no-no

Gearing down seems like it will be better all the way around

i agree im definitely going to be going to the 20t pinion.. i know you have been running the neu/castle motor for a while longer as a beta tester... what gearing/battery setup were you running and what temps were you getting? was it in an e-revo?

i like the castle green motor :)

[rrgirgis]

i wanted to post LEE's response from castle to my thread in another forum...

"Those temps sound about right. These motors are very comparable to the NEU motors. You certainly should not feel that the green ones are any less good than the black NEU motors. We truly licensed the design from Steve.

The fan on the controller is controlled by a temp sensor. The heat sink and controller are very efficient conductors of heat. The fan does not need to be on long, especially if the ambient air is at 55! That's normal."

its odd im getting responses that motor temps are too hot and some normal, hmmmm... im thinking that the neu/caslte motors run hotter than the orginal neu's but its not a factor as the motors are rated to run hot according to PDC.

the fan coming on before 150 and for a short time is normal

[Lee Estingoy]

Originally Posted by rrgirgis

i wanted to post LEE's response from castle to my thread in another forum...

"its odd im getting responses that motor temps are too hot and some normal, hmmmm... im thinking that the neu/caslte motors run hotter than the orginal neu's but its not a factor as the motors are rated to run hot according to PDC.

the fan coming on before 150 and for a short time is normal

Hey, Pat's response and mine are on the same page, we agree. I would hope that you would take Pat's post as the definitive answer...

The Neu Castle motor and the Neu motor compare very favorably. I can't tell you one is better than the other, we sell them both! The green ones do offer some design features in the case that are put there for your benefit.

Not sure I like the sound of "rated to run hot." I don't want anyone to miss out on playtime because they cooked their motor. The old rule of thumb (flesh) is to put your wet finger on the motor when it is hot. If it sizzles, you are too hot. If your finger burns, I didn't tell you to burn yourself, put the lawsuit away.

I'm also concerned that there are both Celsius and Fahrenheit units being tossed around here. The temp readings that you take are going to vary based on exactly what part of the controller or motor your IR sensor is picking up. The hot parts of the controller are packaged pretty tightly/hidden under the heatsink. The controller's temp sensor is pretty accurate, it knows what to do. I don't think you'll see them varying much, so don't think your setting may be off compared to someone else's. The settings and the parts are all the SAME.

My hope is that you guys will get these units and install them. Go run them and see how stupidly fast they are and then gear back a bit to a point that is rational. That will also probably be a setting that is a bit less demanding on the components.

Playing with the timing really won't provide much / any noticeable increase in power. Especially with the motors like the NEU & NEU CASTLE. What advancing the timing WILL do is increase the heat generated as the motor will become less efficient. So leave that timing alone.

Lee

[rrgirgis]

Originally Posted by Lee Estingoy

Hey, Pat's response and mine are on the same page, we agree. I would hope that you would take Pat's post as the definitive answer...

The Neu Castle motor and the Neu motor compare very favorably. I can't tell you one is better than the other, we sell them both! The green ones do offer some design features in the case that are put there for your benefit.

Not sure I like the sound of "rated to run hot." I don't want anyone to miss out on playtime because they cooked their motor. The old rule of thumb (flesh) is to put your wet finger on the motor when it is hot. If it sizzles, you are too hot. If your finger burns, I didn't tell you to burn yourself, put the lawsuit away.

I'm also concerned that there are both Celsius and Fahrenheit units being tossed around here. The temp readings that you take are going to vary based on exactly what part of the controller or motor your IR sensor is picking up. The hot parts of the controller are packaged pretty tightly/hidden under the heatsink. The controller's temp sensor is pretty accurate, it knows what to do. I don't think you'll see them varying much, so don't think your setting may be off compared to someone else's. The settings and the parts are all the SAME.

My hope is that you guys will get these units and install them. Go run them and see how stupidly fast they are and then gear back a bit to a point that is rational. That will also probably be a setting that is a bit less demanding on the components.

Playing with the timing really won't provide much / any noticeable increase in power. Especially with the motors like the NEU & NEU CASTLE. What advancing the timing WILL do is increase the heat generated as the motor will become less efficient. So leave that timing alone.

Lee

thanks lee, i should correct what i wrote "rated to run hot", i ment that maybe due to some of the minor differences between the two motors you might get a little higher average running temperature and that is normal for the neu/castle motor...
as more people get the combo and run them there will be more feedback on temps...but i agree dont go running the motor to the max and expect it not to get damaged or have a burnt finger

Given the fan temp sensor location you mentioned then i would see how my reading at 110 would not be correct, it is to small of a place to get the accurate reading with a temp gun. however i did get the same consistent temp reading when the fan came on, so most important as your saying the MMM is working right

the motor timing i beleive comes default at a higher setting then low, from my first run with it on normal to my second run on low it didnt make that much of a power difference. i agree, on all the castle controllers i have used when i adjusted the timing i never saw much of a difference in power, unless you go from low to max, but with it being at low you get a little more run time and a little cooler temps.

P.S. the MMM COMBO IS STUPID FAST... BUT YOU GOTTA LOVE IT

[brushlessboy16]

I ran my system yesterday in 50*(f) weather. all out-jumping burnouts, etc
Motor came in at 120* batt was 117* and the esc was about 110. In the 15 packs that i have run through the v3, the fan has yet to come on :)