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06.03.2009, 09:43 AM

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So wait, you've tested ALL the batteries you sell on your site to be gaurenteed to power a Flux without killing it?
Well lets not put words in my mouth here - there are far too many variables - if you used a 4s 2600mah pack in the Flux geared for 50mph, I would expect problems. The packs we sell are top quality, but the customer still has the responsibility to select the proper "tools for the job". A properly selected pack and proper gearing with any of the packs we sell will minimize the possibility of failure - specifically battery related failure. Nothing has 100% reliability, and there are many factors that can cause failure - the key is to minimize the potential causes in order to maximize the reliability - this same thought can be applied to anything you do and is the real message here.
Zippy or Flightmaxx in and of themselves are not a "cause of failure" most likely - its the combination of a lower end battery and unrealistic expectations leading to unrealistic operating conditions.
If you run a Ferrri on low grade gasoline, you have nobody to blame but yourself when it develops a ping and runs like crap. If you can't afford "premium", then get a Ford. The same message applies here - if you run lower grade batteries, you must lower your performance expectations and make the appropriate gearing and setup considerations to ensure longevity. :)
   
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06.03.2009, 06:15 PM

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Zippy or Flightmaxx in and of themselves are not a "cause of failure" most likely - its the combination of a lower end battery and unrealistic expectations leading to unrealistic operating conditions.

The same message applies here - if you run lower grade batteries, you must lower your performance expectations and make the appropriate gearing and setup considerations to ensure longevity. :)
I agree to a point Mike, but for most of the people out there, highend stuff is not necessary. Case in point below.

I'll take my Zippy powered Savage (that is used for bashing) and run it against a comparable Savage that's running batteries that cost 3 times what mine cost, and my truck will run right with it. I don't have to lower any expectations with my truck...I actually had to detune it to run it!

Unless you are gearing to the moon and planning to put one hell of a load on your electrical system, as in top speed challenges or the like, I see no good reason to blow $$$$$$ on highend battery packs. The average basher will be served just fine by running the appropriately sized Zippy packs or some other economical packs. I'm a testament to that. Zippys have gotten a bad wrap and frankly, it's not warranted. Many, many people involved in all aspects of this hobby from land to water to air are running Zippys successfully, and that in and of itself speaks volumes.

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06.03.2009, 09:53 PM

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I agree to a point Mike, but for most of the people out there, highend stuff is not necessary. Case in point below.

I'll take my Zippy powered Savage (that is used for bashing) and run it against a comparable Savage that's running batteries that cost 3 times what mine cost, and my truck will run right with it. I don't have to lower any expectations with my truck...I actually had to detune it to run it!

Unless you are gearing to the moon and planning to put one hell of a load on your electrical system, as in top speed challenges or the like, I see no good reason to blow $$$$$$ on highend battery packs. The average basher will be served just fine by running the appropriately sized Zippy packs or some other economical packs. I'm a testament to that. Zippys have gotten a bad wrap and frankly, it's not warranted. Many, many people involved in all aspects of this hobby from land to water to air are running Zippys successfully, and that in and of itself speaks volumes.

curious, waht battery is the other savage running?

because i have the complete opposite results. My NEU outperform my zippy packs any day all day. and dont even get me started on my maxamps....
   
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06.03.2009, 10:08 PM

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curious, waht battery is the other savage running?

because i have the complete opposite results. My NEU outperform my zippy packs any day all day. and dont even get me started on my maxamps....
Given similar ratings my neu packs have also outperformed zippy packs... Not by a large amount, but enough to justify the addl cost. If you want to push some of these good escs and motors, you need good lipos. Now I have also ran a fair number of zippies and been very happy with their performance.
   
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06.05.2009, 12:23 PM

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Given similar ratings my neu packs have also outperformed zippy packs... Not by a large amount, but enough to justify the addl cost. If you want to push some of these good escs and motors, you need good lipos. Now I have also ran a fair number of zippies and been very happy with their performance.
And that's just it. The Zippys give great performance for what you don't have to spend to get it. Sure you can spend more on "competition grade" packs to get a little more punch, but is it really necessary when you can't keep the truck on all 4 tires for any length of time on Zippys? No, not in my opinion if you are a basher just having fun with the truck. For those wanting to set land speed records or those that want to try to time-travel with their Savage, well then, sure the added expense of high-end packs is worth it to wring every last ounce out of the Mamba Monster. I have already mentioned that above.

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06.05.2009, 12:16 PM

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curious, waht battery is the other savage running?

because i have the complete opposite results. My NEU outperform my zippy packs any day all day. and dont even get me started on my maxamps....
Racer's Edge packs, which cost a whole bunch more than my Zippys. Our trucks are both comparable to each other, almost transparent really. My intent on posting here isn't to get into a pee-pee match about packs though.

Considering I have my ESC turned down to 30% punch control and my throttle curve is cut way down, the performance I get out of my Zippys is still incredible, and the truck is still bordering on out of control at full throttle. If I were to put the ESC back to default, the truck would be a mess.

The good thing about the Flux is that it doesn't discriminate in the least.....it'll flip and do all kinds of circus tricks regardless of what brand packs you are running. lol
   
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