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06.21.2009, 06:53 PM

Oh yes, I've been charging at 8 amps (2C) and from 60% they charge in 14-15 minutes- We're finally at the point in the hobby where we are getting more out than we are putting in, charge time vs. runtime, and i'm lovin it!
   
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06.21.2009, 07:41 PM

No man, show me your review, i'd love to check it out. What brand were they?

I know! Fast charging is awesome, as that is one of the reasons why I went with A123's to start with up until now. I am LOVING these lipo's, the punch... insane power, I never knew the my little 1512 could push around a Revo with such authority, and vulgarity! They don't even get any warmer than ambient temp it seems (to touch).

I just can't wait until I can charge them up to 100% at 4.2v/cell, as I am doing 4.133v/cell right now, non-balanced. Just to be safe. BTW, it seems like these things have a break in period, I am 100% certain these things are getting more powerful everytime I run them... and I did hear something about break in for first ~20 cycles on RCGroups, and helifreak. Some good graphs there:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...04&postcount=1

The Quark 125B is having trouble with these packs though, for teh first 5 minutes, if I brake at speed, the Quark shuts down! No brakes! Some kind of over voltage, and glitching is kinda bad too off the charger, and sometimes it doesn't want to even move it's a$$, gotta replug it..

I'll have some updates on Monday with some FULL DOD runs, eagletrees and such. I can also get temps now with the eagletree... I put the temp probe inside the 1512, held in with Mike's Neu end cover.

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06.21.2009, 07:55 PM

Well not reviews per se, but most of what I've written about them is in this thread-
www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18895

And yes even my packs became stronger for the first 15 runs, and the first run was far and above what my old FP Evo25 4900s could muster, and the Hyperions are so understressed they barely get warm, which is why I feel confident giving them a +10C rating over their own numbers. They just DUMP like a capacitor!

If you are seeing higher temps than you ever have, that's more evidence that your components are REALLY being fed now!

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06.21.2009, 11:36 PM

WOW, your maxx is a beast! That is some beautiful craft work on it.

I have to overhaul my Revo to make it race ready for this weekend...

-modify Quark 125 to handle heat, and the extra voltage (add a cap bank), with a no spark mod.

-rearrange the battery mounting

-figure out some kind of motor cooling, as the 1512 gets kinda hot for my liking, but i'm sure it's just me.


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06.22.2009, 12:04 AM

Thanks man... it really came alive with BL and lipo, my one do-everything RC. planning a more refined version over the winter
and want to eliminate the trans possibly.
   
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06.22.2009, 12:24 AM

outrunner?

or quad outrunner? one for each wheel?


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07.03.2009, 01:08 PM

ZP, man.. you really love them packs hey.. I almost feel like selling all of my PolyQuest to get the new HP G3VX packs... I'm really thinking of doing this..


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07.03.2009, 01:53 PM

Honestly I do!

But for good reasons! I have never seen such high voltage holding under load (over 20C @ 3.7v/cell), they are matched so well (I was charging them for over a week, twice a day with no balancing, and in perfect balance).... and of course the price! Compare them to other top brands, these are significantly less; $200 for 6s 4200/35C pack...OR... $200 for 6s 5000/25C pack (apparently under rated), both G3 packs. They are also rated for 4x cycle life, but we will have to see the test of time for that claim.

The performance actually shows in real world, being these are noticeably more punchier than my other 6s 4350/25C Enerland packs. At the track on the weekend, I was doing wheelies in the straights with the G3's, where as that just wouldn't happen with the Enerlands.

If a guy doesn't want to get the cheaper Zippy, or Turnigy lipo packs, GET THESE!


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07.03.2009, 01:59 PM

man, i think you just did enough persauding to get me trying one of these packs now!! haha
so where can i get the 6s 5k mah for $200..link please? what type balancer plugs these hyperion use? i have a hyperion 0606i with a xh plug (zippys) and eh plug (neu energy) and the plug that came with the charger. will these work...im thinking the one that came with the charger since its a hyperion charger.

ALSO, what if the 25c dont perform as well as the 35c??? the ones your raving about are the 4200 35c's right? anyone purchase the 5000 25c's?
   
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07.03.2009, 02:10 PM

hyperions use Hyperion/Polyquest balance tap ;)

for 6S 25C will do ok


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07.03.2009, 04:01 PM

I bought mine at aircraft-world.com... Mike said he is getting more configurations in soon (he really likes them).

Redshift had kinda reviewed the Hyperion Swift 20C packs and said they blew his FP 25C packs 'out of the water'... these are the same cells (same new cell chemistry/manufacturing process) as the Swifts... so if they are any indication, then I am wondering if they are actually all the same performance cells and they just label them differently?

But, if you want a 6s 25C 5000 pack, the pack resistance is 9.1mohm, whereas my 4200 3s 35C packs are 4mohm, so for 6s, times by 2, for 8mohm. Not much difference there. I would have gotten the 25C packs, but they don't fit in the E-revo batt compartments.

Here is the link where I got mine.

http://aircraft-world.com/shopdispla...-Po+-+HYPERION


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07.04.2009, 09:34 PM

Well, I already blew the rear differential out! I have had it for 2 years now, and as soon as I get these batts, POOF. I also don't have any spares, so it looks like it's a 2wd beast for awhile.


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07.04.2009, 10:48 PM

Welcome to the club ZP....

Shall someone start a thread dedicated to the damage done by the new gen packs??

Hyperion could have named the new packs better, someting like the "Driveline Tormentor Series" or even something more positive sounding like "The Wheelie Maker"

BTW my 4000 Classics are reading 9-10 mohms at charge start, and I guess zero at full.... not sure what to make of that as I am an idiot, but sounds respectable I guess?

So yeah guys, buy these packs and get ready to Shuck Fit Up...
   
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07.05.2009, 12:52 AM

9-10ohms, is that a 4s, 5s, 6s?

My 3s packs are reading between 4-5ohms when charging and discharging (rated 4ohms). 720i NET charger.

Funny thing is my 6s 4350mah 25C Enerland based Hyperion packs are reading 23ohm?? Does that make sense?


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07.05.2009, 09:11 PM

Classics are 2 cell.
   
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